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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6191116" data-attributes="member: 4937">As I conceive things, this is an attribute of Wisdom.&nbsp;&nbsp; High wisdom characters correctly understand the requirements of their beliefs.&nbsp;&nbsp; Low wisdom characters are frequently misguided and fail to accomplish what they intend.&nbsp; The lack introspection and often in practice incorrectly label their own beliefs or incorrectly describe to themselves and others what adherence to their belief requires.I'm not sure that they do.a) If they do, then they can only have low Wisdoms.b) Are you sure that they are really motivated to do good, or are they simply zealously adhering to a moral/social code without reflection on the purpose and meaning of the code?&nbsp; This would be lawful.c) In some cases, the beliefs of some of the crusaders are far outside that of the cultural group they supposedly belong too, to the extent that they would be considered heretical claims by the mainstream of that group.&nbsp; In this case, they may be extolling a moral code that is essentially private to themselves and unreviewable to any recognizable external authority.&nbsp; This insistence that you hold private wisdom that the larger group doesn't have is often chaotic.d) In some cases, there is good documented evidence that person in question has been deliberately deceptive in order to advance their claims and agenda.&nbsp; This behavior would be normally associated with evil.So, how can we know for sure?&nbsp;&nbsp; I would argue that we can't really, but that the best estimate would be made by examining other facts about their life to find out if they are sincerely but misguided 'good', pharisaical zealots adhering to the letter of the law but failing to understand or adhere to the spirit, or egotistical fiends enlarging their own importance and creating social turmoil by inventing and promoting stories they themselves know to be falsehoods.&nbsp; Sometimes it's not easy to judge.&nbsp; People tend to keep their innermost thoughts quite secret.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6191116, member: 4937"] As I conceive things, this is an attribute of Wisdom. High wisdom characters correctly understand the requirements of their beliefs. Low wisdom characters are frequently misguided and fail to accomplish what they intend. The lack introspection and often in practice incorrectly label their own beliefs or incorrectly describe to themselves and others what adherence to their belief requires. I'm not sure that they do. a) If they do, then they can only have low Wisdoms. b) Are you sure that they are really motivated to do good, or are they simply zealously adhering to a moral/social code without reflection on the purpose and meaning of the code? This would be lawful. c) In some cases, the beliefs of some of the crusaders are far outside that of the cultural group they supposedly belong too, to the extent that they would be considered heretical claims by the mainstream of that group. In this case, they may be extolling a moral code that is essentially private to themselves and unreviewable to any recognizable external authority. This insistence that you hold private wisdom that the larger group doesn't have is often chaotic. d) In some cases, there is good documented evidence that person in question has been deliberately deceptive in order to advance their claims and agenda. This behavior would be normally associated with evil. So, how can we know for sure? I would argue that we can't really, but that the best estimate would be made by examining other facts about their life to find out if they are sincerely but misguided 'good', pharisaical zealots adhering to the letter of the law but failing to understand or adhere to the spirit, or egotistical fiends enlarging their own importance and creating social turmoil by inventing and promoting stories they themselves know to be falsehoods. Sometimes it's not easy to judge. People tend to keep their innermost thoughts quite secret. [/QUOTE]

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