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<blockquote data-quote="That Darn DM" data-source="post: 5476960" data-attributes="member: 6671049"><p>The troll, if it were looking for an easy meal, it would have taken a party member. He had to jump over the party to get to the larger number of orcs, instead of grabbing one of the party members from behind. Refusing to attack the closer, unsuspecting target shows signs that the troll could be an ally.</p><p></p><p>I don't have qualms with the PCs being cautious, because it very might well be a trap. They took down the troll. That's not Lawful or Good or Evil or Chaotic. It's smart and cautious. My problem is they murdered the troll without hesitation.</p><p></p><p>One of Tyr's tenants was mercy, thanks to Torm. A Paladin of Tyr would be judged, in my game. I don't know Tyr as well as I would like, but I'm not a FR kind of guy.</p><p></p><p>Alignment has long been an issue to people because it is ground in harsh philosophy. I'm a believer in the inherent value ideal. Every life has a worth. The question is, does one have more value than another. When you kill someone, you take away their rights as a human being.</p><p></p><p>You can translate that into D&D and say, the troll's rights were taken away. His crime: being born a troll. That's an evil act. </p><p></p><p>You can slice it anyway you want. Justifying that it's what his god wanted him to do. That it hadn't really proved itself as a friend, but if you're going to believe that, then you really should write down what your ideals of what good and law are and hand them out as house rules. I'm not saying my way of thinking is correct and your's is incorrect. I'm saying I don't agree with it at all and that's not how I see good or lawful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="That Darn DM, post: 5476960, member: 6671049"] The troll, if it were looking for an easy meal, it would have taken a party member. He had to jump over the party to get to the larger number of orcs, instead of grabbing one of the party members from behind. Refusing to attack the closer, unsuspecting target shows signs that the troll could be an ally. I don't have qualms with the PCs being cautious, because it very might well be a trap. They took down the troll. That's not Lawful or Good or Evil or Chaotic. It's smart and cautious. My problem is they murdered the troll without hesitation. One of Tyr's tenants was mercy, thanks to Torm. A Paladin of Tyr would be judged, in my game. I don't know Tyr as well as I would like, but I'm not a FR kind of guy. Alignment has long been an issue to people because it is ground in harsh philosophy. I'm a believer in the inherent value ideal. Every life has a worth. The question is, does one have more value than another. When you kill someone, you take away their rights as a human being. You can translate that into D&D and say, the troll's rights were taken away. His crime: being born a troll. That's an evil act. You can slice it anyway you want. Justifying that it's what his god wanted him to do. That it hadn't really proved itself as a friend, but if you're going to believe that, then you really should write down what your ideals of what good and law are and hand them out as house rules. I'm not saying my way of thinking is correct and your's is incorrect. I'm saying I don't agree with it at all and that's not how I see good or lawful. [/QUOTE]
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