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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5477148" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>So do many humans, does this make them the equivalent of venomous spiders in the real world?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's a core tenent of many of the people in this universe that there is a battle between good and evil, and it is a core tenent of many of the worlds philosophies that people are "usually" or "always" evil beings. Yet if these real world philosophies adopted the policies you say are good, would you call them good?</p><p></p><p>I honestly don't understand what either 'good' or 'evil' mean as you describe it. So far as I can tell, they are just tribal labels under such a description.</p><p></p><p>You are telling me that there is no situation in which the above murder wasn't justified? It was a troll, and so deserving of death? It doesn't matter to you if perhaps it wasnt' a troll, but the victim of some hag's curse - which suitably explains why the troll wasn't acting trollish? It doesn't matter to you if the troll is the sworn servant of a god aligned diety, and the means by which the deity plans to redeem a significant portion of the troll race from the bondage to some god of chaos and evil that they now serve? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In the situation we are describing now, I can't imagine Aragorn beating the Uruk-hai into submission. Seriously, the whole story of The Lord of the Rings was about the providential effects of mercy. Bilbo and later Frodo spare a monsterous cannabalistic murderer who deserves death, because neither of them feel just in striking him when he is helpless and defenseless. And you are telling me that you think story is about ruthlessly slaying the enemy just because they are the enemy? Are you sure you aren't misjudging Aragorn's character?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5477148, member: 4937"] So do many humans, does this make them the equivalent of venomous spiders in the real world? It's a core tenent of many of the people in this universe that there is a battle between good and evil, and it is a core tenent of many of the worlds philosophies that people are "usually" or "always" evil beings. Yet if these real world philosophies adopted the policies you say are good, would you call them good? I honestly don't understand what either 'good' or 'evil' mean as you describe it. So far as I can tell, they are just tribal labels under such a description. You are telling me that there is no situation in which the above murder wasn't justified? It was a troll, and so deserving of death? It doesn't matter to you if perhaps it wasnt' a troll, but the victim of some hag's curse - which suitably explains why the troll wasn't acting trollish? It doesn't matter to you if the troll is the sworn servant of a god aligned diety, and the means by which the deity plans to redeem a significant portion of the troll race from the bondage to some god of chaos and evil that they now serve? In the situation we are describing now, I can't imagine Aragorn beating the Uruk-hai into submission. Seriously, the whole story of The Lord of the Rings was about the providential effects of mercy. Bilbo and later Frodo spare a monsterous cannabalistic murderer who deserves death, because neither of them feel just in striking him when he is helpless and defenseless. And you are telling me that you think story is about ruthlessly slaying the enemy just because they are the enemy? Are you sure you aren't misjudging Aragorn's character? [/QUOTE]
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