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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sekhmet" data-source="post: 5477174" data-attributes="member: 97602">The troll did not defend this party, it was a third party of combatant. It did not jump in screaming "I'MA HELP YOU LOL".  If the same had happened to the Fellowship, Legolas would have it pumped so full of arrows that it would be dead before it hit the ground, and added another tally to his list of kills.  Aragorn would not have checked him, nor would he have nursed it back to health. He would have killed him during the combat, as can be evidenced by their being no point during any of their battles where he walked around after a battle and gave cookies and tea to the injured (but not quite dead) opponents.  Relating a troll (usually evil) to something in the real world (venomous spider) was a way for me to put across the idea that should be held into belief by any Good (D&D) NPC. Squash the troll before it squashes you. This is the same reason that people hunt Evil Dragons, Demons, Devils, etc.  The philosophies of the real world have no bearing on the philosophy of the core D&D universe. In the real world, there is no definition of Good or Evil. Philosophers have been trying to determine these answers for thousands of years, and no one can agree.  The D&D universe spells it out for us. (And yes, if the same applied to the real world, I would be very pleased. There would no longer be moral arguments about things like genocide [can be a good thing], abortion, stem cell research, vegetable states, etc.)  If the troll was actually a human polymorphed somehow into a troll, it would have turned into a human when it died. It did not.  If a troll is (somehow) Good (we would obviously have to talk to that DM to find out), it would have made it's intention very clear when it entered combat. By declaring his intention (to aid the PC's in a dangerous battle), even while fighting the orcs (instead of before entering combat), he could have saved his own life. He did not, and in the same fashion that those who win the Darwin Awards do, he deserve his fate.  Aragorn would have killed it. He would not have beaten it into submission, he would have killed it. This is because the Uruk'hai are either "usually" or "always" Evil.  In the end, Frodo kills that monster, and should have from the beginning. However, they decided to use the monster instead of killing it, which, really, is a form of coercion if you think about it, akin to torture.</blockquote>

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