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<blockquote data-quote="Dross" data-source="post: 5479070" data-attributes="member: 33802"><p>Maybe, but I'm thinking not. One of the traits of Lawful is honour, and striking down someone from behind that is helping you does not strike me as honourable. If "Usually CE" allows for Good trolls, then it becomes beholden on Good people to find out why the troll is apparently helping them (and THEN you can burn it! <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" />).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I would question that on at least one level. Paladins performing an Evil act loose their paladin status but don't if they perform a Chaotic act. A Neutral Good PC, especially a Cleric, would need to consider Good v Evil above Law v Chaos.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which to me would make them Lawful Neutral, Not LG or LE. For me, those mentioned as having a Good/Evil alignment need to have Good/Evil as part of their decision making process (and in a typical D&D game Good/Evil are not supposed to be regional either).</p><p></p><p>As for Lawful never going against Lawful beliefs, the last paragraph of PHB pg103 state that no one is completely consistent and someone may "take something or hoard something he has even if that’s not lawful or good" so while unlikely "never" is too strong a term for me.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>While I disagree with Law/Chaos and Good/Evil being independent of each other (because you have to exclude those aspects in favour of neutrality), I agree that you cannot always do the LG, CG, LE, CG, etc thing. You just have to chose where to place your priority.</p><p></p><p>The PHB has Good/Evil as an "attitude that one recognizes but does not choose" and Law/Chaos is "but more often it is a personality trait that is recognized rather than being chosen". One way I look at this is that Law/Chaos is how you go about being Good/Evil.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dross, post: 5479070, member: 33802"] Maybe, but I'm thinking not. One of the traits of Lawful is honour, and striking down someone from behind that is helping you does not strike me as honourable. If "Usually CE" allows for Good trolls, then it becomes beholden on Good people to find out why the troll is apparently helping them (and THEN you can burn it! :lol:). I would question that on at least one level. Paladins performing an Evil act loose their paladin status but don't if they perform a Chaotic act. A Neutral Good PC, especially a Cleric, would need to consider Good v Evil above Law v Chaos. Which to me would make them Lawful Neutral, Not LG or LE. For me, those mentioned as having a Good/Evil alignment need to have Good/Evil as part of their decision making process (and in a typical D&D game Good/Evil are not supposed to be regional either). As for Lawful never going against Lawful beliefs, the last paragraph of PHB pg103 state that no one is completely consistent and someone may "take something or hoard something he has even if that’s not lawful or good" so while unlikely "never" is too strong a term for me. While I disagree with Law/Chaos and Good/Evil being independent of each other (because you have to exclude those aspects in favour of neutrality), I agree that you cannot always do the LG, CG, LE, CG, etc thing. You just have to chose where to place your priority. The PHB has Good/Evil as an "attitude that one recognizes but does not choose" and Law/Chaos is "but more often it is a personality trait that is recognized rather than being chosen". One way I look at this is that Law/Chaos is how you go about being Good/Evil. [/QUOTE]
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