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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8695395" data-attributes="member: 5889">However, what if while watching the scene, the DM sees the other players eyes start to roll, "oh here goes Bob again with one of his subplots". So the DM could let Bob go through this whole blacksmith scene, consuming the game time while the other players have to wait....or he could nudge Bob back on the main plot that all of his players are enjoying, and so now they get to participate. Remember that sometimes the DM has to step in when one player's agency can step on teh agency of others.Again its never that black and white, which is my issue with this debate. I am willing to accept there are certain levels of railroading that are generally bad and excessive, but it seems like there are others that any amount of railroading is absolutely unacceptable. Those are incompatible viewpoints, with nothing in the middle to work towards agreement.</blockquote>