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<blockquote data-quote="Crimson Longinus" data-source="post: 8697938" data-attributes="member: 7025508">What is the deception? This idea seems to presuppose an acceptable way for the GM to generate the content and deviation from that without announcing it to be a deception. But where does this assumption come from? Cannot I equally as player have and assumption that the GM will fiddle with the things so that I meet interesting stuff and when that doesn't happen because the GM stuck to the prep and I failed to click the right pixels, can I claim I was deceived?Yes, an illusion is created, but I don't think it is fundamentally different than many other ways of creating an illusion of real world full of stuff. And in a broad sense everyone knows this. Everyone knows that that ogre is behind that door because at some point the GM for some reason decided that it is there. We are basically just quibbling about when and why the GM decided it, and I see no particular reason to assume that there is some obvious default for that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Crimson Longinus, post: 8697938, member: 7025508"] What is the deception? This idea seems to presuppose an acceptable way for the GM to generate the content and deviation from that without announcing it to be a deception. But where does this assumption come from? Cannot I equally as player have and assumption that the GM will fiddle with the things so that I meet interesting stuff and when that doesn't happen because the GM stuck to the prep and I failed to click the right pixels, can I claim I was deceived? Yes, an illusion is created, but I don't think it is fundamentally different than many other ways of creating an illusion of real world full of stuff. And in a broad sense everyone knows this. Everyone knows that that ogre is behind that door because at some point the GM for some reason decided that it is there. We are basically just quibbling about when and why the GM decided it, and I see no particular reason to assume that there is some obvious default for that. [/QUOTE]

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