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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8699398" data-attributes="member: 23751">Is it? The DMG says that the DM can award experience for noncombat challenges, or go with milestone XP or level advancement without XP.&nbsp; You can gain levels in 5e just fine without ever getting into a fight.Yes, the DM can go traditional and give out most or all XP through fights, but it doesn't have to be that way.You tell me, since you're the one stating it.&nbsp; I never said anything like that.I'm sure they are.&nbsp; They aren't playing the game, though.&nbsp; They're just along for your ride.&nbsp; That can be fun, but it's not my thing.&nbsp; Do they know that they are being railroaded?I've never said that, though.&nbsp; It has to be possible to avoid them, which is very different than the point being to avoid them, which is your fabrication.Agency is being able to make a choice that matters.&nbsp; If a player is on rails, overt or illusionary, that player has no choice and so can't be playing the game.&nbsp; To play the game you have to be able to make choices that matter.&nbsp; Yes and no.&nbsp; I have put terms to it and can discuss it.&nbsp; Players in my experience don't like to be forced into things.&nbsp; Players recognize when they are being forced into something against their will and generally hate it.&nbsp; Unless you lie to them and use illusionism to fool them, which is a technique designed to avoid them knowing that you are doing something they will hate.If you are presenting three false choices, because they are all the same choice, then yes that is railroading.&nbsp; You are forcing them down a path.So you know they aren't okay with being railroaded, so you hide it and do it anyway.&nbsp; Classy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8699398, member: 23751"] Is it? The DMG says that the DM can award experience for noncombat challenges, or go with milestone XP or level advancement without XP. You can gain levels in 5e just fine without ever getting into a fight. Yes, the DM can go traditional and give out most or all XP through fights, but it doesn't have to be that way. You tell me, since you're the one stating it. I never said anything like that. I'm sure they are. They aren't playing the game, though. They're just along for your ride. That can be fun, but it's not my thing. Do they know that they are being railroaded? I've never said that, though. It has to be possible to avoid them, which is very different than the point being to avoid them, which is your fabrication. Agency is being able to make a choice that matters. If a player is on rails, overt or illusionary, that player has no choice and so can't be playing the game. To play the game you have to be able to make choices that matter. Yes and no. I have put terms to it and can discuss it. Players in my experience don't like to be forced into things. Players recognize when they are being forced into something against their will and generally hate it. Unless you lie to them and use illusionism to fool them, which is a technique designed to avoid them knowing that you are doing something they will hate. If you are presenting three false choices, because they are all the same choice, then yes that is railroading. You are forcing them down a path. So you know they aren't okay with being railroaded, so you hide it and do it anyway. Classy. [/QUOTE]

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