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<blockquote data-quote="MechaTarrasque" data-source="post: 8748605" data-attributes="member: 6801226"><p>Paizo made agathions that way to differentiate them from guardinals. I don't see WotC encroaching on Paizo's turf for that (although there will be a Pathfinder Kingmaker Bestiary for 5e {<a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1640784365/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1" target="_blank">Pathfinder Kingmaker Bestiary (Fifth Edition) (5e): Corff, Jeremy, Grady, Robert J, Hitchcock, Tim, Ibach, Jeff, Jaczko, Victoria, Kimmel, Matt, Lee, Jeff, Neale, Julian, Perrin, Chris, Phillips, Tom, Riggs, Alex: 9781640784369: Amazon.com: Books</a>}, so potentially there could be agathions in 5e, just not from WotC [although Paizo seems to like angels more for NG]).</p><p></p><p>Just brainstorming here, but I think they liked the Magic the Gathering archons because they were more (lawfully) neutral (and thus PC's were more likely to fight them) and because you could fit most of the traditional archons into "cosmic knight riding a winged beast"--your dog-headed knight could ride a winged dire wolf and still transform into a dog (maybe even a winged dog); sorry lantern archons unless you are a tiny celestial riding a firefly. Thus, I suspect the guardinals will lean into the guarding thing, since this gives the PC's a reason to fight them. They could be the subtle guardians, instead of flashy ones like sphinxes and nagas. Is that elf whose face makes you think of a lion, just an elf or could he be a celestial watching over a well with a cursed magic ring at the bottom that the Powers of Goodness hope no mortal will ever think to look for? Potentially they could be more subtle patrons than a Ky-rin or a metallic dragon. But we won't know until they show up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MechaTarrasque, post: 8748605, member: 6801226"] Paizo made agathions that way to differentiate them from guardinals. I don't see WotC encroaching on Paizo's turf for that (although there will be a Pathfinder Kingmaker Bestiary for 5e {[URL="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1640784365/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1"]Pathfinder Kingmaker Bestiary (Fifth Edition) (5e): Corff, Jeremy, Grady, Robert J, Hitchcock, Tim, Ibach, Jeff, Jaczko, Victoria, Kimmel, Matt, Lee, Jeff, Neale, Julian, Perrin, Chris, Phillips, Tom, Riggs, Alex: 9781640784369: Amazon.com: Books[/URL]}, so potentially there could be agathions in 5e, just not from WotC [although Paizo seems to like angels more for NG]). Just brainstorming here, but I think they liked the Magic the Gathering archons because they were more (lawfully) neutral (and thus PC's were more likely to fight them) and because you could fit most of the traditional archons into "cosmic knight riding a winged beast"--your dog-headed knight could ride a winged dire wolf and still transform into a dog (maybe even a winged dog); sorry lantern archons unless you are a tiny celestial riding a firefly. Thus, I suspect the guardinals will lean into the guarding thing, since this gives the PC's a reason to fight them. They could be the subtle guardians, instead of flashy ones like sphinxes and nagas. Is that elf whose face makes you think of a lion, just an elf or could he be a celestial watching over a well with a cursed magic ring at the bottom that the Powers of Goodness hope no mortal will ever think to look for? Potentially they could be more subtle patrons than a Ky-rin or a metallic dragon. But we won't know until they show up. [/QUOTE]
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