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<blockquote data-quote="scourger" data-source="post: 2810539" data-attributes="member: 12328">Sure, experiences &amp; opinions vary.&nbsp; I'm just not willing to work that hard at play.&nbsp; There is a diminishing marginal return for me.&nbsp; By &quot;right&quot; I mean the players get unhappy when the game expereince that is delivered doesn't exactly match the game expereince that they expected.&nbsp; So, I think we're saying the same thing.&nbsp; Sometimes, it's a show-stopper.&nbsp; I've read the DMG through and through.&nbsp; Three editions now.&nbsp; It's just too much information now.&nbsp; I love the idea of using the base D&amp;D d20 game for other games, but the players I have don't like it.&nbsp; It seems easier to just switch to a different game altogether.&nbsp; Right now, that's Savage Worlds.&nbsp; I could still run Omega World or possibly Judge Dredd; but again it's relatively much more work for me which diminishes the marginal return.&nbsp; So, I don't.&nbsp;&nbsp; Not to get completely sidetracked, but I do hope the next edition is simpler.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="scourger, post: 2810539, member: 12328"] Sure, experiences & opinions vary. I'm just not willing to [I]work[/I] that hard at [I]play[/I]. There is a diminishing marginal return for me. By "right" I mean the players get unhappy when the game expereince that is delivered doesn't exactly match the game expereince that they expected. So, I think we're saying the same thing. Sometimes, it's a show-stopper. I've read the DMG through and through. Three editions now. It's just too much information now. I love the idea of using the base D&D d20 game for other games, but the players I have don't like it. It seems easier to just switch to a different game altogether. Right now, that's [I]Savage Worlds[/I]. I could still run [I]Omega World[/I] or possibly [I]Judge Dredd[/I]; but again it's relatively much more work for me which diminishes the marginal return. So, I don't. Not to get completely sidetracked, but I do hope the next edition is simpler. [/QUOTE]

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