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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 5746475" data-attributes="member: 92511"><p>Actually, an interesting note on this that I just recently noticed (these 25-30 years later) perusing my Red Box Players Handbook...or maybe it was the Expert set manual...pretty sure it was the Basic book...(and too lazy to get up and go look. lol.)</p><p></p><p>They are very clear in noting that "Magic-users are the only class that can use <em><strong>any </strong></em>magic item." </p><p></p><p>So, by that, it would not at all be "out of bounds" to say a magic-user can use/wield a magic sword (which Gandalf's, as we all know, was). They are the only class that can use <em><strong>any</strong></em> magic item.</p><p></p><p>Of course, then AD&D came out with prescribed weapons' lists. So I was never in a group that allowed MUs to have swords. But I'm pretty shocked that never, in any of my pre- (or post-) AD&D play did anyone ever notice that and try to have a wizard with a sword.</p><p></p><p>[EDIT] Scrath all of this. I know I read it. I know it was an old D&D book (they're the only ones I have!). But I checked this morning and I can't find the line anywhere. I DID find a line in the Basic PH saying "the only weapon a MU can use is a Dagger." and I found something else under the Magic Items entries saying "since a MU can not use a sling, an MU can not use a magic sling."...which lends to the "no swords for MUs" perception even before AD&D...But where was that line I read?! </p><p></p><p>S'anyway, just ignore this post.[/EDIT]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 5746475, member: 92511"] Actually, an interesting note on this that I just recently noticed (these 25-30 years later) perusing my Red Box Players Handbook...or maybe it was the Expert set manual...pretty sure it was the Basic book...(and too lazy to get up and go look. lol.) They are very clear in noting that "Magic-users are the only class that can use [I][B]any [/B][/I]magic item." So, by that, it would not at all be "out of bounds" to say a magic-user can use/wield a magic sword (which Gandalf's, as we all know, was). They are the only class that can use [I][B]any[/B][/I] magic item. Of course, then AD&D came out with prescribed weapons' lists. So I was never in a group that allowed MUs to have swords. But I'm pretty shocked that never, in any of my pre- (or post-) AD&D play did anyone ever notice that and try to have a wizard with a sword. [EDIT] Scrath all of this. I know I read it. I know it was an old D&D book (they're the only ones I have!). But I checked this morning and I can't find the line anywhere. I DID find a line in the Basic PH saying "the only weapon a MU can use is a Dagger." and I found something else under the Magic Items entries saying "since a MU can not use a sling, an MU can not use a magic sling."...which lends to the "no swords for MUs" perception even before AD&D...But where was that line I read?! S'anyway, just ignore this post.[/EDIT] [/QUOTE]
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