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Message: <blockquote data-quote="knightofround" data-source="post: 5758938" data-attributes="member: 27884">I wrote something similiar awhile ago, but in 3s instead of 4s:AbilitiesStrengthEnduranceDexterityIntelligenceWisdomCharismaTraits:Fortitude: Higher of Strength or EnduranceReflex: Higher of Dexterity or IntelligenceWill: Higher of Wisdom or CharismaEach archaetype makes attacks vs 2 defensesDefender/Fighter: Fortitude and Reflex. Reflex to hit, Fortitude to damage.Leader/Priest: Will and Fortitude. Will to hit, Fortitude to damage.Striker/Mage/Thief: Reflex and Will. Reflex to hit, Will to damage.Ex: Fighter attacks a Mage with a sword. Both the Fighter and Mage make opposing Reflex rolls. Fighter wins, so the attack is classified as a hit. Next the Fighter and Mage make opposing Fortitude rolls. Fighter wins, so the attack has 2x the normal effect. In this case, its HP damage. But if it were a spell or prayer instead it might have 2x the duration, 2x the penalty on the enemy, or 2x the benefit for a nearby ally.I like this rock-paper-scissors arrangement because each class has a targetable weakness, but they also have a good secondary stat that will prevent them from getting obliterated. It makes stuff like both Dex and Int based Defenders equally viable mechanically in combat, while still allowing for flavor in the realm of skills and ability checks.The downside though is that it would be hassle to make 1-2 opposing rolls per combat action, instead of just 1 roll vs a static defensive number. Powergamers will arrange it so their top 3 stats cover all 3 defenses. It is unfortunate that an Str/End fighter is mechanically weaker than an Str/Dex character, for example. But you can punish that by setting harsh ability requirements for feats etc, so there will be a reason for defenders to have both Str and End. Without there being stats that *everybody* needs, like Dex and Con in all editions of D&D.</blockquote>

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