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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8673007" data-attributes="member: 16814">Who's harping on what now?&nbsp; I don't follow where you meant that to come from or go. You are correct, though, that the best laid out recommendations I've seen for running FATE are hard genre sim, where play is still very much exploring the GM's ideas of setting and/or plot.&nbsp; I think that's not the best way to use that ruleset, but it's not like FATE bothers to tell you how to use it, really, so it's of little surprise that people steeped in how D&amp;D plays will approach FATE in the same manner.&nbsp; Nothing at all wrong with that, either.But FATE is definitely not mainstream because it does introduce some pretty hard player-side plot coupons, which seem to be generally frowned upon.&nbsp; I also don't see why FATE gets a pass into the mainstream because you happen to like it while PbtA has to sit firmly on the sidelines, despite rather similar market share.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 8673007, member: 16814"] Who's harping on what now? I don't follow where you meant that to come from or go. You are correct, though, that the best laid out recommendations I've seen for running FATE are hard genre sim, where play is still very much exploring the GM's ideas of setting and/or plot. I think that's not the best way to use that ruleset, but it's not like FATE bothers to tell you how to use it, really, so it's of little surprise that people steeped in how D&D plays will approach FATE in the same manner. Nothing at all wrong with that, either. But FATE is definitely not mainstream because it does introduce some pretty hard player-side plot coupons, which seem to be generally frowned upon. I also don't see why FATE gets a pass into the mainstream because you happen to like it while PbtA has to sit firmly on the sidelines, despite rather similar market share. [/QUOTE]

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