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All monsters equal? Goblin Warrior vs Kobold Skirmisher.
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<blockquote data-quote="Neubert" data-source="post: 4555036" data-attributes="member: 53036"><p>A while ago, during a game, my players had a look through my MM to look at the stats for the monsters (there had been general complains about the players having too hard a time hitting them - and the monsters having too easy a time hitting the PC's).</p><p></p><p>They stumbled over the Goblin Warrior (p. 137) and the Kobold Skirmisher (p. 167), both level 1 skirmishers (awarding 100 xp). What they found was that the kobold were a lot weaker than the goblin "counterpart" and notified me. After brewing over it for a while, and not finding any similar posts, I finally took the time to write one myself.</p><p></p><p>Below, I'll list the differences between the Kobold and goblin skirmisher by mentioning the difference in stats from the Kobolds point of view.</p><p></p><p>So compared to a Goblin Warrior, the Kobold Skirmisher has:</p><p>-1 Perception</p><p>-2 HP</p><p>-2 AC</p><p>-2 Fort</p><p>-1 Ref</p><p>+1 Will</p><p></p><p>-6 Str</p><p>-1 Dex</p><p>-2 Wis</p><p>-2 Con</p><p>-2 Int</p><p>+7 Cha</p><p></p><p>Am I the only one that thinks that the Kobold is missing out? I am aware that there is no exact formula for making monsters and one should be careful about comparing them, but this seems to be some rather big differences. Especially the difference in AC stands out (which was also what my players noticed at first), as it is a +/- 10% chance to hit for players.</p><p></p><p>They have the same bonus to hit with their spears (+6) however.</p><p></p><p>At this time of writing, there are no errata for either of the two creatures.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neubert, post: 4555036, member: 53036"] A while ago, during a game, my players had a look through my MM to look at the stats for the monsters (there had been general complains about the players having too hard a time hitting them - and the monsters having too easy a time hitting the PC's). They stumbled over the Goblin Warrior (p. 137) and the Kobold Skirmisher (p. 167), both level 1 skirmishers (awarding 100 xp). What they found was that the kobold were a lot weaker than the goblin "counterpart" and notified me. After brewing over it for a while, and not finding any similar posts, I finally took the time to write one myself. Below, I'll list the differences between the Kobold and goblin skirmisher by mentioning the difference in stats from the Kobolds point of view. So compared to a Goblin Warrior, the Kobold Skirmisher has: -1 Perception -2 HP -2 AC -2 Fort -1 Ref +1 Will -6 Str -1 Dex -2 Wis -2 Con -2 Int +7 Cha Am I the only one that thinks that the Kobold is missing out? I am aware that there is no exact formula for making monsters and one should be careful about comparing them, but this seems to be some rather big differences. Especially the difference in AC stands out (which was also what my players noticed at first), as it is a +/- 10% chance to hit for players. They have the same bonus to hit with their spears (+6) however. At this time of writing, there are no errata for either of the two creatures. [/QUOTE]
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