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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aaron L" data-source="post: 2458178" data-attributes="member: 926">I've given subraces a hard time, but I have nothing against the concept gnerally, just the way it is implemented and the sometimes seemingly random inclusion of a subrace for no other reason than to have it.  I need some historical reason for a divergent variety of halfling, for example, or at least legendary.  Now, in a plane spanning game like Psion's, or a setting like Dragonstar or Planescape, subraces are an excellent way to show the diversity of the multiverse.  But for games largely set on one world I tend to get annoyed with more than 2 or 3 varieties of a race as it seems like overkill.  If you want to equate subraces with ethnicities than there should be a lot more than there are, and humans should have some.  If you want them to represent actual alternate races, give a reason for thier existence as different than teh standard branch of the race.  Look at drow, theres a big reason for thier existence, and anything less than that feels lame to me in comparison.  And give humans as many subraces as anyone else, dang it!  It just rubs me the wrong way that there are 3 subraces of halfling and none of humans.  Ive never seen a satisfactory reason for it.  This is my personal taste and nothing more, I certainly am not trying to tell people not to include as many subraces as they want in thier game!Now as for races lacking mechanical flavor?  Hell yes I agree.  Ive been trying to come up with balance alterations to the races for a while now.  Ive considered making elves and dwarves maybe LA+1 races (with suitable bonuses of course, and just for my homebrew setting) and giving elves a dang good reason why they are the master wizards of the world.</blockquote>

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