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<blockquote data-quote="Ancalagon" data-source="post: 8798532" data-attributes="member: 23">I had internet problems last night and I wasn't able to post the follow up I wanted - which was a synthesis of the data.&nbsp; I should note that this covers 3 different groups of players/GM, with me being the common denominatorTotal number of PCs:&nbsp; 47Class breakdown:&nbsp;&nbsp; (multi class counts as &quot;half&quot;)Artificer&nbsp; 4Barbarian 2.5Bard: 1Cleric 4Druid 6Fighter 5.5Monk 4Paladin 4Ranger 4Rogue 3.5Sorcerer 0.5Warlock 2.5Wizard 4So now a few conclusions from my data and experience:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fighters and druids are the most popular, sorcerers and bards the least.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Most classes are roughly equality popular</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Is this data representative?&nbsp; I don't know, but I've played in a lot of game.&nbsp; If we conclude that it is not big enough of a sample to be representative, I would posit that most people's experience is not representative either.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">No game went beyond 10th level</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Player skill has a huge impact on PC effectiveness, moreso than the class/subclass</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Party composition has a big impact on effectiveness - in particular, the combo of a twilight cleric and a summoner is massive.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">The game/GM also has a big impact.&nbsp; In our SKT's game we had a &quot;burly&quot; party for most of the campaign, and... well doing lost of damage is great vs giants, but it's not like low HP is a weakness of the giants...</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Smart RP and tactics are very important - in the same game, we talked our way out of some battles, which is worth more than any DPR build...</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Monks can be fun and effective, or terrible, depending on the player and the game.</li>
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[QUOTE="Ancalagon, post: 8798532, member: 23"] I had internet problems last night and I wasn't able to post the follow up I wanted - which was a synthesis of the data. I should note that this covers 3 different groups of players/GM, with me being the common denominator Total number of PCs: 47 Class breakdown: (multi class counts as "half") Artificer 4 Barbarian 2.5 Bard: 1 Cleric 4 Druid 6 Fighter 5.5 Monk 4 Paladin 4 Ranger 4 Rogue 3.5 Sorcerer 0.5 Warlock 2.5 Wizard 4 So now a few conclusions from my data and experience: [LIST] [*]Fighters and druids are the most popular, sorcerers and bards the least. [*]Most classes are roughly equality popular [*]Is this data representative? I don't know, but I've played in a lot of game. If we conclude that it is [I]not[/I] big enough of a sample to be representative, I would posit that [I]most[/I] people's experience is not representative either. [*]No game went beyond 10th level [*]Player skill has a huge impact on PC effectiveness, moreso than the class/subclass [*]Party composition has a big impact on effectiveness - in particular, the combo of a twilight cleric and a summoner is massive. [*]The game/GM also has a big impact. In our SKT's game we had a "burly" party for most of the campaign, and... well doing lost of damage is great vs giants, but it's not like low HP is a weakness of the giants... [*]Smart RP and tactics are very important - in the same game, we talked our way out of some battles, which is worth more than any DPR build... [*]Monks can be fun and effective, or [I]terrible[/I], depending on the player and the game. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]

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