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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6230696" data-attributes="member: 57383">Glad to be of help.I usually use <a href="http://ant.hivemind.net/monsters.html" target="_blank">Echohawk's Index</a>. It's pretty complete up to early 4th edition. It's still a work in progress - he's said he's got a long list of updates it needs.The Mystaran Brown Dragon is the same monster as the Mystaran Amber Dragon, so there's only two. The BECMI Amber/Brown is a different dragon to the AD&D Mystaran Amber/Brown. The former is a CE counterpart to a gold dragon with two nasty breath weapons, the latter is Mystara's version of the "standard" Brown Dragon.It depends on what source you go by.The Dragonlance Gray Dragon is an offshoot of the White Dragon that was changed by the Chaos powers of the Greygem, making them more intelligent, increasing their magical skills, and adding a paralyzing effect to their freezing breath weapon. Its original AD&D version (Dragon #146) says it's a member of "evil dragonkind" but doesn't name it as a Chromatic. The 3E version (the "Grey" Dragon in Bestiary of Krynn) is a subentry of the Frost Dragon, which is a Chaos Dragon, so it seems likely the Dragonlance Gray Dragon is a member of the Chaos Dragons rather than the Chromatic Dragons - they seem to be affiliated with Father Chaos far more than Tiamat.According to their original articles by Richard Alan Lloyd (1E in Dragon #65, 2E in Dragon #248), the Orange (Sodium), Purple (Energy), and  Yellow (Salt) are all Chromatic Dragons. The Orange (Sodium) is a cross between a Yellow and Red Chromatic Dragon and a Purple (Energy) is a cross between a Red and a Blue.The Yellow Dragons are a bit more problematic. The Yellow (Salt) Dragon has wings in its 1E illustration (Dragon #65) but is wingless in its 2E illustration (Dragon #248). Neither of their descriptions mentions whether they have wings or not, but both versions can fly. The 3E Yellow Dragon in Dragon Compendium I is a wingless dragon and the article specifies it's the same dragon as the Dragon #65/#248 Yellow, so the easiest explanation is that the wings of the 1E illustration are an artistic error.The Forgotten Realms Yellow Dragon from the 2E Draconomicon and Monstrous Manual definitely has wings both in its picture and description. It's quite similar to the 2E Yellow (Salt) but there are enough differences to merit it being a separate Dragon - its breath weapon does the same damage, but it only causes blindness as a secondary effect (instead of the blindness + agony of the Salt Dragon). It has different spell-like abilities. Also, the 2E version only has a land and fly speed - the Yellow (Salt) Dragon can burrow and swim as well, and has water breathing to allow unlimited stays underwater. We added a burrow speed to our conversion of the Monstrous Manual Yellow (IIRC because of their fondness for burying themselves to ambush victims).The Forgotten Realm Yellow Dragon's description says they have "long been predicted by sages (based on theories of primary colors)" - which is a pretty clear reference to the Alan Lloyd's Dragon articles using a "color wheel" argument for the existence of an Orange, Purple & Yellow Dragon. That's some slight evidence for it being a Chromatic Dragon, but it's worth noting that the Monstrous Manual does not lists it as "Dragon, Chromatic - Dragon, Yellow", but only as "Dragon, Yellow".The 4E Draconomicon: Chromatic Dragons list Brown, Grey and Purple Dragons as Chromatics, but these are different dragons to the ones above. The 4E Brown is the 3E Sand Dragon from Sandstorm, the 4E Grey is the same as earlier editions' Fang Dragon, and the 4E Purple is earlier editions' Deep Dragon.That means the Sandstorm Sand Dragon is officially a Chromatic, at least in one edition of the game.</blockquote>

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