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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 8283553" data-attributes="member: 6696971">Good post (which I agree with...unsurprisingly!).  I'm going to use it to address a few things.[USER=71699]@clearstream[/USER] I knew the premise would be resisted and cries of "false dichotomy" would emerge before I even started the post.  Like I've written above though.  I don't see how there is anything approaching weighty theoretical support that the premise can be outright rejected as never_ever happening, I certainly know after probably 10,000 hours of GMing every brand of D&D (and skillfully GMing it) that it happens, and I know for a fact that the community-at-large has perceived this dating back to at least the 80s (and Dungeon/Dragon mags and I'm fairly certain White Dwarf before it...and in hobby shops and water cooler talk).  So the evidence required to overturn those things are titanic.Can you describe in a sentence what you mean by "gameful narrative"?  I've never heard of the term.  Unlike some on here, I'm not going to flip out an go ELITIST JARGON OMG I HATE YOU.  I'm sure that collection of words has meaning to you.  Perhaps it has meaning in some gaming subculture I'm ignorant to.  And I'm perfectly willing to accept the term and your usage.I just need to know what it means.  Is it what [USER=7027139]@loverdrive[/USER] is referring to (and pushing back against) directly above?  Any narrative that spins out of participating in any game whether it is arbitrarily spun out, forced to spin out, or systemitized to spin out?</blockquote>

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