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Message: <blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 8287164" data-attributes="member: 71699">I don't find it clear at all because I can think of scenarios where casting passwall sits nicely within Gygax's model of successful play. A very obvious way that it can meet the test is if where and when to cast it requires perspicacity by the player. Gygax advises players to avoid distractions, mitigate side-dangers, and drive to their objective. And nearly every mage who has it will meet your second test, as they will be 9th level or higher.I can accept this, so long as everyone is comfortable with the baggage of discussing traditions. Local versions of the tradition will vary. The varying versions may well contain inconsistencies and contradictions. No one is free to say my take on it is wrong, given that their takes are not definable. Except, that is, in the usual way of traditions that some groups will claim the high-ground and deliver pronouncements. Often with appeal to ancient authorities while brandishing weighty tomes... the heavier the better!I hope you take that last not too seriously, although you have to see some parallels here <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>