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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7009785" data-attributes="member: 20564"><p>In a thread about the Bladesinger, [MENTION=6683613]TheCosmicKid[/MENTION] mentioned that without SCAG he was letting Oath of Ancients paladins use INT instead of CHR to make his own bladesinger.</p><p></p><p>And it occurs to me that the paladin is a great platform for "classic gish" if it was said to be arcane and used INT.</p><p></p><p>Now, INT seems to be among the least important ability scores. Except for a small selection of skills that are okay to have only a single expert in the party, it doesn't have a lot of use. Making it the prime ability for a class seems, in general, to be neutral or a minor debuff depending what you give up.</p><p></p><p>Which made me think about other casters that could work as INT, like Lore bard.</p><p></p><p>A INT-based paladin would synergize well with Wizard, but before it shared CHR with three casters (Sorcerer, Bard and Warlock).</p><p></p><p>So, if I allowed Paladin and Bard to change from CHR to INT for their casting and class features, picked when firswt entering the class, what abuses am I setting myself up for that wouldn't happen with CHR-only? What reasons are there not to allow this?</p><p></p><p>Assume allowing SCAG/Volo/EE. For UA stuff just call out that it's UA.</p><p></p><p>Note: Yes, you could do a Paladin/Wizard(Bladesinger) with Shield and Absorb Elements and end up remarkably defensive with a good spell advancement to divine smite with. This may be better than paladin/sorcerer with bladesong and absorb elements but misses out on metamagic like twinning buffs or quickened spells after an Attack action.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blue, post: 7009785, member: 20564"] In a thread about the Bladesinger, [MENTION=6683613]TheCosmicKid[/MENTION] mentioned that without SCAG he was letting Oath of Ancients paladins use INT instead of CHR to make his own bladesinger. And it occurs to me that the paladin is a great platform for "classic gish" if it was said to be arcane and used INT. Now, INT seems to be among the least important ability scores. Except for a small selection of skills that are okay to have only a single expert in the party, it doesn't have a lot of use. Making it the prime ability for a class seems, in general, to be neutral or a minor debuff depending what you give up. Which made me think about other casters that could work as INT, like Lore bard. A INT-based paladin would synergize well with Wizard, but before it shared CHR with three casters (Sorcerer, Bard and Warlock). So, if I allowed Paladin and Bard to change from CHR to INT for their casting and class features, picked when firswt entering the class, what abuses am I setting myself up for that wouldn't happen with CHR-only? What reasons are there not to allow this? Assume allowing SCAG/Volo/EE. For UA stuff just call out that it's UA. Note: Yes, you could do a Paladin/Wizard(Bladesinger) with Shield and Absorb Elements and end up remarkably defensive with a good spell advancement to divine smite with. This may be better than paladin/sorcerer with bladesong and absorb elements but misses out on metamagic like twinning buffs or quickened spells after an Attack action. [/QUOTE]
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