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<blockquote data-quote="Whizbang Dustyboots" data-source="post: 8876402" data-attributes="member: 11760">ROFL.Or, alternately, we've known Han Solo for decades, and we get to see the progress of time with him -- a character who is routinely shown to be wrong all the time from his very first appearance. It's part of his appeal: Half of the messes Han is in, he created, and the fun is watching him get himself out.In contrast, Luke Skywalker was a blank page interacting with blank pages. Learning about how time progressed with these characters means nothing, since we don't know their starting point, and what hints we do get about Obi-Wan's past are immediately retconned in the next movie. (Darth Vader was not Luke's father when Star Wars was written.)True. But when the only characters one is upset about all tend to be women or people of color, it's also fair to say that puts one in company with people who are sexist and racist and is cause for everyone else to be suspicious.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Whizbang Dustyboots, post: 8876402, member: 11760"] ROFL. Or, alternately, we've known Han Solo for decades, and we get to see the progress of time with him -- a character who is routinely shown to be wrong [I]all the time[/I] from his very first appearance. It's part of his appeal: Half of the messes Han is in, he created, and the fun is watching him get himself out. In contrast, Luke Skywalker was a blank page interacting with blank pages. Learning about how time progressed with these characters means nothing, since we don't know their starting point, and what hints we do get about Obi-Wan's past are immediately retconned in the next movie. (Darth Vader was not Luke's father when Star Wars was written.) True. But when the only characters one is upset about all tend to be women or people of color, it's also fair to say that puts one in company with people who [I]are[/I] sexist and racist and is cause for everyone else to be suspicious. [/QUOTE]

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