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<blockquote data-quote="AnotherGuy" data-source="post: 8876568" data-attributes="member: 7029930"><p>Ah, I see now thanks.</p><p>The podcaster I linked to upthread says this (just after the 6 minute mark)</p><p></p><p><em>Reason number 4. <strong>The general utter disdain for the audience.</strong> </em></p><p><em>So much of the show is written as a preemptive strike against its expected critics. Since the main villain of the show is a group of male incels that are angry that a woman can be a Hulk, but also a successful lawyer with a good butt I guess at least that is how the show creators think about the reason for all the hate that She Hulk has received and will continue to receive. </em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>But I'm the show's worst nightmare. I'm a woman and a woman of colour, thankfully its not green and I too did not like the show. She Hulk was clearly a successful comic book, a thoroughly enjoyed and appreciated female hero in a medium that generally attracts male readership and yet the comic did well so why did the creators feel the need to assume that men were going to hate She Hulk. I mean they weren't wrong a lot of people and a lot of men hate the show. And is it any wonder, the men on the show are absolute reprehensible examples of masculinity. And its clear that the writers are all aching to put them in their place and prove to them that women are superior. </em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>So why would men enjoy the show when its clear that the writers think so ill of them. The character of She Hulk was not really treated with respect as a proper character with edges and shadows but rather as a caricature and turned into a dark fantasy for the writers to repeatedly dunk on men. And then they turn around and complain that the men refuse to lay down and take it. And that any women that dislike the show are clearly critising it because of their internalised misogyny and their desire to see women fail and fine I'm sure people will lump into that category but I suggest the writers look at their work honestly. Did this show really offer any sort of compelling story?</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>After Jen refuses to become a superhero calling the Avengers narcissist its amazing that the rest of the show is about her dating life, her name and her struggles with acquiring clothing and yet she views the willingness to serve people and the world as narcissistic. Jen experiences no growth through the show instead remaining flat and uninteresting, achieving her happy ending by speaking to the manager and ensuring everyone is arrested. But the final and most crucial reason for the failure of this show is the world view the writers and creators have laid out in front of us. There is nothing heroic, nothing aspiring or inspiring, instead its actually pretty bleak since the men are tools and the women are vapid. And its clearly how the writers clearly think about the world we live in. Which is why instead of creating content that inspires they created something that is nine episodes of constant finger ragging at men. </em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AnotherGuy, post: 8876568, member: 7029930"] Ah, I see now thanks. The podcaster I linked to upthread says this (just after the 6 minute mark) [I]Reason number 4. [B]The general utter disdain for the audience.[/B] So much of the show is written as a preemptive strike against its expected critics. Since the main villain of the show is a group of male incels that are angry that a woman can be a Hulk, but also a successful lawyer with a good butt I guess at least that is how the show creators think about the reason for all the hate that She Hulk has received and will continue to receive. But I'm the show's worst nightmare. I'm a woman and a woman of colour, thankfully its not green and I too did not like the show. She Hulk was clearly a successful comic book, a thoroughly enjoyed and appreciated female hero in a medium that generally attracts male readership and yet the comic did well so why did the creators feel the need to assume that men were going to hate She Hulk. I mean they weren't wrong a lot of people and a lot of men hate the show. And is it any wonder, the men on the show are absolute reprehensible examples of masculinity. And its clear that the writers are all aching to put them in their place and prove to them that women are superior. So why would men enjoy the show when its clear that the writers think so ill of them. The character of She Hulk was not really treated with respect as a proper character with edges and shadows but rather as a caricature and turned into a dark fantasy for the writers to repeatedly dunk on men. And then they turn around and complain that the men refuse to lay down and take it. And that any women that dislike the show are clearly critising it because of their internalised misogyny and their desire to see women fail and fine I'm sure people will lump into that category but I suggest the writers look at their work honestly. Did this show really offer any sort of compelling story? After Jen refuses to become a superhero calling the Avengers narcissist its amazing that the rest of the show is about her dating life, her name and her struggles with acquiring clothing and yet she views the willingness to serve people and the world as narcissistic. Jen experiences no growth through the show instead remaining flat and uninteresting, achieving her happy ending by speaking to the manager and ensuring everyone is arrested. But the final and most crucial reason for the failure of this show is the world view the writers and creators have laid out in front of us. There is nothing heroic, nothing aspiring or inspiring, instead its actually pretty bleak since the men are tools and the women are vapid. And its clearly how the writers clearly think about the world we live in. Which is why instead of creating content that inspires they created something that is nine episodes of constant finger ragging at men. [/I] [/QUOTE]
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