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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 3785145" data-attributes="member: 7635">Can you name one published setting (D&amp;D or otherwise) that uses Thor in it? I can, but I'm sure Mystara is a bit of an obscure reference. Greyhawk? No. Realms? Tyr, but no Thor. Eberron? Nope. Birthright, Ravenloft, Dragonlance, Scarred Land, Aerth, Wilderlands, Blackmoor, Kalamar? No. I guess Planescape, but thats really not fair...Their comes a time when you ask when has something stopped being specific to a setting and starts becoming generic. Venca's artifacts were in the 1e DMG, but they were pretty Greyhawk specific (heck, all the artifacts were GH specific). Planescapes's tieflings made it into 3e's Monster Manual. Orcus is pretty specific a name, as is Tiamat, but those names pop up repeatedly in D&amp;D generic books. At this point, Mordenkainen, Vecna, Tiamat, and Orcus have been around long enough that they are linked to D&amp;D no matter what the world. You can remove them if they offend you, but to remove them from the core would be a great diservice to new players and make the world seem more toolkit than default, change to taste. I'd rather the latter, IMHO.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 3785145, member: 7635"] Can you name one published setting (D&D or otherwise) that uses Thor in it? I can, but I'm sure Mystara is a bit of an obscure reference. Greyhawk? No. Realms? Tyr, but no Thor. Eberron? Nope. Birthright, Ravenloft, Dragonlance, Scarred Land, Aerth, Wilderlands, Blackmoor, Kalamar? No. I guess Planescape, but thats really not fair... Their comes a time when you ask when has something stopped being specific to a setting and starts becoming generic. Venca's artifacts were in the 1e DMG, but they were pretty Greyhawk specific (heck, all the artifacts were GH specific). Planescapes's tieflings made it into 3e's Monster Manual. Orcus is pretty specific a name, as is Tiamat, but those names pop up repeatedly in D&D generic books. At this point, Mordenkainen, Vecna, Tiamat, and Orcus have been around long enough that they are linked to D&D no matter what the world. You can remove them if they offend you, but to remove them from the core would be a great diservice to new players and make the world seem more toolkit than default, change to taste. I'd rather the latter, IMHO. [/QUOTE]

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