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Message: <blockquote data-quote="seasong" data-source="post: 857303" data-attributes="member: 5137">It's more of a flavor issue than anything - they use the power of their words, not crude material aids. It also cuts out raise dead and similar, restoration, secret chest and a number of other vaguely inappropriate spells.Damn. It also cuts out protection from spells, which seems like a very sorcerer-y high end spell.It may be a bad idea, and something to drop from the description. Anyone want to comment on this?All except the barbarian and fighter. But truthfully, I just missed it.If perform included things like extemperaneous and public speaking, swaying a crowd of senators, and so on, I'd go with it in a heartbeat. But those things are handled by Diplomacy <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.Perform is something they would do well at (due to CHA bonuses), but it's not something that would be integral to an armoured spell caster.Oops! Thanks, that will be corrected.Believe me, I'm aware of this <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />. In my current campaign, I have a variant type of spell caster called an esper who requires nothing but concentration to cast spells. The esper ni the group got caught in the stomach of a tendriculous (sp?), was paralyzed, and proceeded to gut it from the inside magically. It really drove this ability home for me <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.It's reasonably well balanced out by...Yeah. In fact, one of the historical atrocities I'm considering in the distant past of the setting was an enemy who enslaved sorcerers by cutting their tongues out and making them into silent courtesans and whatnot.I would probably rule that it did. In general, I see the verbal components as being subject to the same strictures as for a wizard, except that the sorcerer can't eliminate the sound with silent spell.Every spell has a school, even clerical spells <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. Cure Light is a conjuration spell; even if it wasn't the favored school, the sorcerer could take it as early as 2nd level.This is how it works, yes.That's a good question <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. Personally, I think it works fine in practice; one level of reduced effect is rarely truly horrible <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.The sorcerer could take it at 13th level if it was a non-favored school; 12th if it was the favored school.</blockquote>

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