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Message: <blockquote data-quote="greycastle" data-source="post: 946597" data-attributes="member: 11130">Then what possible 'practical' reason could you have for giving yourself scales of a dragon? It would seem to me, that during that time that you have those scales, you Should infact gain a natural armour bonus...but as this could be abused, possibly some sort of preventive measure could be put, WITHOUT resorting simply to houserules...If from the sage advice it says you can gain claw attacks, what is to stop you gaining natural armour? if you can gain gills, what is to stop you from gaining a tail?...however, with the latter "gaining a tail" you would not be proficient with it, and so could not gain an attack, if normally you could have one...or at best/worst, you could gain an attack if you used a full round action with no 5ft step, to simply attack once with your tail...but following this logic, it would seem, if you were proficient with say Fullplate armour, and transformed yourself into a knight wearing fullplate armour, you would gain simply the benefits of your material possession (though i personally would never let this extend to a stage where people can Alter Self to aquire a +5 adamantium greatsword/fullplate....If it feels like a halberd, would it not weigh as a halberd? and despite this magic thing, would you then say that dropping the halberd on another person, would simply result in the person feeling as if they were hit by a dagger?!</blockquote>