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<blockquote data-quote="FANGO" data-source="post: 199021" data-attributes="member: 2368"><p>Actually, from a scientific POV, infravision would work....ever heard of FLIR? It's what the army uses for night missions, they put it on a lot of helicopters (it's made it's way into police choppers too), and sometimes in goggles, and it lets you see infrared. It just like normal vision, except not in color and a little blurry. I'm sure that if they can put it into a machine like that, that nature could find a way to come up with something similar (and, in fact, there are animals that can see into the ultraviolet, so this suggests that it would be possible to see into infrared, too...I don't have any examples, but I'm sure there are some animals that can see a little into the infrared as well). The matter of 'everything being white' also doesn't make much sense, cause the eyes would be calibrated such that they don't absorb too much energy (in fact, in our own eyes, this very same thing happens: the sensors that sense light are actually facing backwards and recieve the light after it bounces off of the back of our retina, after going through a lot of that aqueous whatever its called and through other stuff on the retina...this is done in order to dull the intensity of the light so our eyes don't get overexposed), and there's such a thing as irises that also help to control these sorts of things. And as for cooling....the body has a very sophisticated liquid cooling system, it's called blood ;-) ...and if you happen to be referring to sean k reynolds' rant about infravision...the guy is a wacko and assumes far too much, his arguments hold very little water.</p><p></p><p>The main reason they got rid of infravision was that it was confusing and led to things that people didn't want it to lead to. Some DMs would interpret it as having vision in the infrared, and some would interpret it just as 3e darkvision is interpreted. Also, it allowed people to see invisible things, or to track people who had been in the area in the past few minutes by looking at the heat signatures they left on things that they touched. This was all very confusing and every group had a different way of looking at it, so they just went with darkvision (i suspect also that part of the motivation was that someone wanted to play around with the solarizing filter in photoshop...if you know anything about that program or about photography in general, look at the picture of the mind flayer in the DMG section on darkvision and you'll see what I mean).</p><p></p><p>And referring to the post about dwarves being natural and having darkvision.....I was looking for real world examples of darkvision...I think someone has been playing a little too much AD&D ;-)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FANGO, post: 199021, member: 2368"] Actually, from a scientific POV, infravision would work....ever heard of FLIR? It's what the army uses for night missions, they put it on a lot of helicopters (it's made it's way into police choppers too), and sometimes in goggles, and it lets you see infrared. It just like normal vision, except not in color and a little blurry. I'm sure that if they can put it into a machine like that, that nature could find a way to come up with something similar (and, in fact, there are animals that can see into the ultraviolet, so this suggests that it would be possible to see into infrared, too...I don't have any examples, but I'm sure there are some animals that can see a little into the infrared as well). The matter of 'everything being white' also doesn't make much sense, cause the eyes would be calibrated such that they don't absorb too much energy (in fact, in our own eyes, this very same thing happens: the sensors that sense light are actually facing backwards and recieve the light after it bounces off of the back of our retina, after going through a lot of that aqueous whatever its called and through other stuff on the retina...this is done in order to dull the intensity of the light so our eyes don't get overexposed), and there's such a thing as irises that also help to control these sorts of things. And as for cooling....the body has a very sophisticated liquid cooling system, it's called blood ;-) ...and if you happen to be referring to sean k reynolds' rant about infravision...the guy is a wacko and assumes far too much, his arguments hold very little water. The main reason they got rid of infravision was that it was confusing and led to things that people didn't want it to lead to. Some DMs would interpret it as having vision in the infrared, and some would interpret it just as 3e darkvision is interpreted. Also, it allowed people to see invisible things, or to track people who had been in the area in the past few minutes by looking at the heat signatures they left on things that they touched. This was all very confusing and every group had a different way of looking at it, so they just went with darkvision (i suspect also that part of the motivation was that someone wanted to play around with the solarizing filter in photoshop...if you know anything about that program or about photography in general, look at the picture of the mind flayer in the DMG section on darkvision and you'll see what I mean). And referring to the post about dwarves being natural and having darkvision.....I was looking for real world examples of darkvision...I think someone has been playing a little too much AD&D ;-) [/QUOTE]
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