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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hawken" data-source="post: 5051718" data-attributes="member: 23619">In relation to the belt, yes. But you still have to deal with actual drains. This idea would be completely optional, but it could be reasoned that something that improves one's 'effective' stat without changing the 'actual' stat, might be able to mitigate some debilitating effects on that stat. If this seems like too much, just disregard. It seemed like a reasonable idea when I came up with it at the time.If this is true, then Headbands of Intellect already 'step on the toes' of Rings of Wizardry since the increased Intelligence provides for increased bonus spells anyway. One of the mods warned me about sarcasm and told me to ignore it. So, ignore...ignore...ignore...!In 1E, I believe the gauntlets bumped Str up to 18/00 which was about as rare an accomplishment as a PC getting a 30 Str nowadays. I don't think it affected encumbrance, but the +3 to hit and +6 damage it provided was darn sweet back in those days!Or you could keep the gauntlets AND make a +2 belt (since you're recalling 1E, there were 5 different types of giant belts anyway) AND have the gauntlets and the belt STACK! Or just change the effects of the belt and have it do what 1E did and just bump STR up to a flat 18. Maybe change it to the price of a +4 stat item if you do that.</blockquote>