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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MadBlue" data-source="post: 2193287" data-attributes="member: 7552">Then again, many arcane PrCs are built with the Wizard in mind and require Feats the Wizard has access to as bonus Feats.  For every Wizard who has to spend one of their bonus Feats in order to qualify for a PrC, there are probably 10 Wizards saying "What metamagic or item creation Feat am I going to spend this bonus Feat on?" (YMMV, of course).  And, as Technik4 mentioned, many people see the Sorcerer as lacking something compared to the Wizard.What it comes down to (to me) is this: Is a bonus Feat worth 23 skill points?  Because at 20th level, that's what an Intelligence of 12 grants, and Charisma and Intelligence are considered to be equivalent as far as ability scores go. Roleplaying potential aside (and all three mental abilities really have equal roleplaying potential), IMHO all abilities should provide a mechanical benefit that would make even the most die-hard hack-and-slash player look at Intelligence, Wisdom and Charisma and consider what all three have to offer, rather than just choosing between skill points and Will save bonus and relegating the lowest score to Charisma.As far as a definitive list of bonus Feats goes, while not definitive, the ones I've come up with from the PHB are:Feats that give a +2 to two skillsImproved InitiativeImproved TurningIron WillNatural SpellSkill FocusAnd from the Complete books:Extend RageExtra RageExtra SmitingExtra StunningEyes in the Back of Your HeadFaster HealingInstantaneous RageIntimidating RageKiai ShoutGreater Kiai ShoutEmpower TurningImproved TurningQuicken TurningDivine FeatsWild FeatsExtra InvocationExtra SlotExtra SpellFeats that grant 0-level spellsDraconic FeatsAscetic X FeatsDanger SenseDevoted X FeatsForce of PersonalityInsightful ReflexesBardic Music FeatsOpen MindedVersatile PerformerFor the most part, they're Feats that flesh out a character and don't overlap with the bonus Feats the Fighter class grants.MadBlue</blockquote>

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