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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 1323353" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p>Well, as far as how I liked it, the answer is "not much". Despite the fact that the normal ending has less actually happening, it at least deals with both of the villains, albeit not definitive in what it seems to be suggesting. The alternate ending, by contrast, was not only disappointingly lacking in not showing Jason, but was also rather ambiguous in what we were being shown.</p><p></p><p>To be fair, the entire thing with the alternate ending not mentioning Jason is somewhat understandable, as (IMHO) F vs. J was a Nightmare on Elm Street movie that just happened to feature Jason (which is understandable, since the NoES people have wanted Jason to guest star since the sixth movie in that series). </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And if the ending of F vs. J were just that clear, I'd be inclined to agree, but circumstances about the characters themselves, and previous movies, call this heavily into question.</p><p></p><p>The normal ending, with Jason rising, whole once more, from the lake holding Freddy's severed head, which then smiles and winks at the camera, seems to portray the best possible ending - that ultimately, it's something of a draw. Depending on how you look at it in context, the alternate ending could suggest that too.</p><p></p><p>Yes, we do tend to assume that because we see Freddy (apparently) in the alternate ending, and not Jason, that could be implied that Freddy "won". However, this apparently is not definitive. We know beyond any shadow of a doubt, for example, that Jason did completely recover from the battle with Freddy, since the events of Jason X begin in the very near future, and move forward from there. Likewise, even though at the end of F vs. J we see Jason sinking into the lake, his eyes, which Freddy stabbed out, have regenerated, which would seem to imply that he's already begun to piece himself back together.</p><p></p><p>This isn't to say that Jason won either. Both endings seem to make it clear that Freddy has not been put out of commission permanently. The novelization, apparently trying to sum up previous Freddy movies, mentions that Freddy has been dragged into the real world and killed there before, and that after that happened, he eventually turned back up in dreams again. So him dying in the real world this time causes him no permanent harm.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I think the two endings work best when used together. First, we should se the shot of Jason rising from the lake, holding Freddy's head. It laughs, and then we segue to the two kids about to have sex, and Freddy's reapparance. This seems to work best in showing us an ending that showcases the fate of both villains, and the protagonists.</p><p></p><p>To me, the idea of asking whether Freddy or Jason won the fight depends on exactly how you determine what a "win" is. Neither one of them was able to kill the other, either in the dream world, or the real world. At the end of the film, both of them are apparently none the worse for wear, since Jason rises from the lake to kill again (in the next chronological movie featuring him, Jason X) and Freddy returns to finally slice the two survivors to ribbons (presumably that's what he does, anyway).</p><p></p><p>It seems rather like a cop-out to me to have the villain fight of the decade have been a draw, but really, what else could it have been? It had already been established that both Freddy and Jason were essentially unable to be permanently killed, and having one finally do the other in would have annoyed fans of that particular horror (though the upset would have been interesting).</p><p></p><p>Despite that though, I still liked the film a lot! Here's hoping for Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 1323353, member: 8461"] Well, as far as how I liked it, the answer is "not much". Despite the fact that the normal ending has less actually happening, it at least deals with both of the villains, albeit not definitive in what it seems to be suggesting. The alternate ending, by contrast, was not only disappointingly lacking in not showing Jason, but was also rather ambiguous in what we were being shown. To be fair, the entire thing with the alternate ending not mentioning Jason is somewhat understandable, as (IMHO) F vs. J was a Nightmare on Elm Street movie that just happened to feature Jason (which is understandable, since the NoES people have wanted Jason to guest star since the sixth movie in that series). And if the ending of F vs. J were just that clear, I'd be inclined to agree, but circumstances about the characters themselves, and previous movies, call this heavily into question. The normal ending, with Jason rising, whole once more, from the lake holding Freddy's severed head, which then smiles and winks at the camera, seems to portray the best possible ending - that ultimately, it's something of a draw. Depending on how you look at it in context, the alternate ending could suggest that too. Yes, we do tend to assume that because we see Freddy (apparently) in the alternate ending, and not Jason, that could be implied that Freddy "won". However, this apparently is not definitive. We know beyond any shadow of a doubt, for example, that Jason did completely recover from the battle with Freddy, since the events of Jason X begin in the very near future, and move forward from there. Likewise, even though at the end of F vs. J we see Jason sinking into the lake, his eyes, which Freddy stabbed out, have regenerated, which would seem to imply that he's already begun to piece himself back together. This isn't to say that Jason won either. Both endings seem to make it clear that Freddy has not been put out of commission permanently. The novelization, apparently trying to sum up previous Freddy movies, mentions that Freddy has been dragged into the real world and killed there before, and that after that happened, he eventually turned back up in dreams again. So him dying in the real world this time causes him no permanent harm. Personally, I think the two endings work best when used together. First, we should se the shot of Jason rising from the lake, holding Freddy's head. It laughs, and then we segue to the two kids about to have sex, and Freddy's reapparance. This seems to work best in showing us an ending that showcases the fate of both villains, and the protagonists. To me, the idea of asking whether Freddy or Jason won the fight depends on exactly how you determine what a "win" is. Neither one of them was able to kill the other, either in the dream world, or the real world. At the end of the film, both of them are apparently none the worse for wear, since Jason rises from the lake to kill again (in the next chronological movie featuring him, Jason X) and Freddy returns to finally slice the two survivors to ribbons (presumably that's what he does, anyway). It seems rather like a cop-out to me to have the villain fight of the decade have been a draw, but really, what else could it have been? It had already been established that both Freddy and Jason were essentially unable to be permanently killed, and having one finally do the other in would have annoyed fans of that particular horror (though the upset would have been interesting). Despite that though, I still liked the film a lot! Here's hoping for Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash! :D [/QUOTE]
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