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<blockquote data-quote="Villano" data-source="post: 1329720" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>Nooooo! The merged Freddy/Jason was actually in one of the unused scripts. A two-headed, four-armed guy hitting himself will haunt my nightmares forever! Think of Army Of Darkness when Ash begins to split into Bad Ash, except played "seriously". </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>LOL. Like that episode of MST3K with a Gamera movie. In it, Gamera fights the other monster for the whole film, only to use his fire breath at the end and kill it. When one of the Mysties asks why he just didn't do that at the beginning, someone else replies that he forgot he could. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree with what you said, but I was referring to some shots from the real world fight. I'm not sure they were in the deleted scenes now that I think about it. They may have been in some of the behind the scenes bits in one of the "making of" featurettes. One of the shots was Freddy kicking Jason in the groin. In the film, it, of course, has no effect and Jason tosses Freddy aside. As originally filmed, Freddy kicks him and it has no effect, but, instead of being grabbed by Jason, Freddy just mocks him.</p><p></p><p>There were a few more moments like that. Coupled with Freddy's (rightful) domination in the dream fight, Jason was pretty much a punching bag in the original fight. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, the idea was that Jason was Freddy first victim and either J got away or was killed (depending on the rewrite). One idea was that F was J's mom's boyfriend (and a budding serial killer). Another was that F was a camp councelor and he molested J. Both took place at Crystal Lake and ended with F either chasing J into the lake or dragging him out there to kill him. The camp councelor idea would have had F being just a teenager or in his early 20s, long before he moved to Springwood and "perfected" his methods (i.e., the claws).</p><p></p><p>It's a bit of a quibble to complain that it couldn't have happened since Freddy killed all his victim, especially since one of those scripts (the boyfriend one) totally axed Jason's entire continuity. It was actually a very, very well-written script (much better characters and dialogue that what made it to the screen), but it was a Nightmare film with Jason being a real, living killer and the Friday movies just being movies based on him. I felt that was pretty stupid since it basically said that dream demons exist, but zombies can't. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hey, time travel was the whole point of AoD. Ash either returns to the present or ends up in the far future by the end (depending on which ending you saw). So, having Bad Ash show up wouldn't be that big a deal. Heck, it doesn't even have to be the same Bad Ash. After all, all you need to make Bad Ash is Ash.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I never cared about Hellraiser and I only like the 1st two Halloween films, but I'm a sucker for team-ups. Plus, Barker and Carpenter actually wanted to work with each other. With that pair, I think you would have had a very good film.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Villano, post: 1329720, member: 505"] Nooooo! The merged Freddy/Jason was actually in one of the unused scripts. A two-headed, four-armed guy hitting himself will haunt my nightmares forever! Think of Army Of Darkness when Ash begins to split into Bad Ash, except played "seriously". LOL. Like that episode of MST3K with a Gamera movie. In it, Gamera fights the other monster for the whole film, only to use his fire breath at the end and kill it. When one of the Mysties asks why he just didn't do that at the beginning, someone else replies that he forgot he could. :) I agree with what you said, but I was referring to some shots from the real world fight. I'm not sure they were in the deleted scenes now that I think about it. They may have been in some of the behind the scenes bits in one of the "making of" featurettes. One of the shots was Freddy kicking Jason in the groin. In the film, it, of course, has no effect and Jason tosses Freddy aside. As originally filmed, Freddy kicks him and it has no effect, but, instead of being grabbed by Jason, Freddy just mocks him. There were a few more moments like that. Coupled with Freddy's (rightful) domination in the dream fight, Jason was pretty much a punching bag in the original fight. Well, the idea was that Jason was Freddy first victim and either J got away or was killed (depending on the rewrite). One idea was that F was J's mom's boyfriend (and a budding serial killer). Another was that F was a camp councelor and he molested J. Both took place at Crystal Lake and ended with F either chasing J into the lake or dragging him out there to kill him. The camp councelor idea would have had F being just a teenager or in his early 20s, long before he moved to Springwood and "perfected" his methods (i.e., the claws). It's a bit of a quibble to complain that it couldn't have happened since Freddy killed all his victim, especially since one of those scripts (the boyfriend one) totally axed Jason's entire continuity. It was actually a very, very well-written script (much better characters and dialogue that what made it to the screen), but it was a Nightmare film with Jason being a real, living killer and the Friday movies just being movies based on him. I felt that was pretty stupid since it basically said that dream demons exist, but zombies can't. :rolleyes: Hey, time travel was the whole point of AoD. Ash either returns to the present or ends up in the far future by the end (depending on which ending you saw). So, having Bad Ash show up wouldn't be that big a deal. Heck, it doesn't even have to be the same Bad Ash. After all, all you need to make Bad Ash is Ash. I never cared about Hellraiser and I only like the 1st two Halloween films, but I'm a sucker for team-ups. Plus, Barker and Carpenter actually wanted to work with each other. With that pair, I think you would have had a very good film. [/QUOTE]
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