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<blockquote data-quote="Keia" data-source="post: 351551" data-attributes="member: 98">Some interesting ideas here, but:I think you are doubling up on the benefits of having a good hit die for a race.&nbsp; If you increase the hit die for a particular race because of the 'Con Bonus' that the PHB indicates the race should have, I think you should only do that and just drop the con bonus.So if a Dwarf should have a d10 for its racial hit die, then it shouldn't also have a +2 con bonus.&nbsp; Save that for the bigger critters out there.from elockanllor:Barbarians: +4Fighters, Paladins, Rangers: +2Clerics, Druids: 0Bards, Rogues: -2Sorcerers, Wizards: -4From this you are implying that there is a +8 con bonus for barbarians.&nbsp; Now I'm sure the barbarians would be happy about this but I don't think anyone else would be.&nbsp; The same with the Sorcerors and Wizards.&nbsp; Remeber this is an adjustment to hit die, which only happens for every 2 Con points.I think the class adjustments to the racial hit die that Azhad posted have more merit.&nbsp;&nbsp; Are they identical duplications to the Core Rules? No.&nbsp; But I think they make sense all things considered (outdoors types, book learners, bodies trained as weapons, etc.)Chris</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Keia, post: 351551, member: 98"] Some interesting ideas here, but: I think you are doubling up on the benefits of having a good hit die for a race. If you increase the hit die for a particular race because of the 'Con Bonus' that the PHB indicates the race should have, I think you should only do that and just drop the con bonus. So if a Dwarf should have a d10 for its racial hit die, then it shouldn't also have a +2 con bonus. Save that for the bigger critters out there. from elockanllor: Barbarians: +4 Fighters, Paladins, Rangers: +2 Clerics, Druids: 0 Bards, Rogues: -2 Sorcerers, Wizards: -4 From this you are implying that there is a +8 con bonus for barbarians. Now I'm sure the barbarians would be happy about this but I don't think anyone else would be. The same with the Sorcerors and Wizards. Remeber this is an adjustment to hit die, which only happens for every 2 Con points. I think the class adjustments to the racial hit die that Azhad posted have more merit. Are they identical duplications to the Core Rules? No. But I think they make sense all things considered (outdoors types, book learners, bodies trained as weapons, etc.) Chris [/QUOTE]

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