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<blockquote data-quote="thedungeondelver" data-source="post: 3276708" data-attributes="member: 34865"><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">Following TSR's bankruptcy in  1999, Kenzer & Co. sweep in and pick up <strong>ADVANCED DUNGEONS & DRAGONS</strong> for a song at the property sale.  <strong>ADVANCED DUNGEONS & DRAGONS, 3RD EDITION</strong> is released to much fanfare.  It now uses the <strong>HACKMASTER</strong> engine, but without the gonzo stupidity forced on it by Wizards of the Coast: there is no "parent company" so afraid of the old system gaining popularity that they have to smother it, mock it, and make it into a joke.  </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">With a promise of more control and a return of <strong>THE WORLD OF GREYHAWK</strong> as the default setting, Gary Gygax is lured back to the company initially as a consultant.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">Troll Lord Games becomes the first 3rd party licensed product producer for <strong>AD&D</strong>.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">Reaper Miniatures gets the go-ahead to produce a line of official <strong>AD&D</strong> miniatures.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">Systems like <strong>ALTERNITY</strong>, <strong>STAR FRONTIERS</strong>, <strong>GAMMA WORLD</strong>, <strong>BOOT HILL</strong> and <strong>BUCK ROGERS</strong> are allowed to "lapse" and either revert back to the original authors or can be had for a song.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">Oh and here's something super important:</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"><strong>David C. Sutherland III isn't DISMISSED WITHOUT SO MUCH AS AN INTERVIEW AND DOESN'T WIND UP DYING AS A DIRECT RESULT.</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">...</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">Now as far as the fate of the hobby gaming industry?  No idea.  With White Wolf on the outside giving TSR some competiton, I'm sure things would stay dynamic.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thedungeondelver, post: 3276708, member: 34865"] [font=century gothic] Following TSR's bankruptcy in 1999, Kenzer & Co. sweep in and pick up [b]ADVANCED DUNGEONS & DRAGONS[/b] for a song at the property sale. [b]ADVANCED DUNGEONS & DRAGONS, 3RD EDITION[/B] is released to much fanfare. It now uses the [b]HACKMASTER[/B] engine, but without the gonzo stupidity forced on it by Wizards of the Coast: there is no "parent company" so afraid of the old system gaining popularity that they have to smother it, mock it, and make it into a joke. With a promise of more control and a return of [b]THE WORLD OF GREYHAWK[/B] as the default setting, Gary Gygax is lured back to the company initially as a consultant. Troll Lord Games becomes the first 3rd party licensed product producer for [b]AD&D[/b]. Reaper Miniatures gets the go-ahead to produce a line of official [b]AD&D[/b] miniatures. Systems like [b]ALTERNITY[/B], [B]STAR FRONTIERS[/B], [B]GAMMA WORLD[/B], [B]BOOT HILL[/B] and [B]BUCK ROGERS[/B] are allowed to "lapse" and either revert back to the original authors or can be had for a song. Oh and here's something super important: [b]David C. Sutherland III isn't DISMISSED WITHOUT SO MUCH AS AN INTERVIEW AND DOESN'T WIND UP DYING AS A DIRECT RESULT.[/b] ... Now as far as the fate of the hobby gaming industry? No idea. With White Wolf on the outside giving TSR some competiton, I'm sure things would stay dynamic. [/font] [/QUOTE]
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