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<blockquote data-quote="index" data-source="post: 1651753" data-attributes="member: 21195"><p><strong>mostly off-topic</strong></p><p></p><p>I'm sorry to waste so much room on stuff that's mostly off-topic, but violation of copyright law can land people in jail very quickly, and has many times in the past with companies less enlightened than WotC.</p><p></p><p>Thanee wrote:</p><p></p><p></p><p>So? Free to read and download (in one single place) does NOT mean free to re-use. Did you read what I wrote? If I can't easily and LEGALLY share it with players, it's USELESS.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Obviously you've never been beaten with the Copyright Law club. First, the law on Fair Use is intentionally vague. Second, corporations generally have big lawyers. Third, publically owned corporations are REQUIRED to put profit first, before considerations such as common decency. If a publically owned corporation can profit from abuse of a customer, it WILL.</p><p></p><p>Peter Adkison tried to make Wizards of the Coast into a different kind of company, but pressure from profit-oriented corporate members and business partners forced Mr. Adkison and WotC into a more typical corporate mold even before Hasbro bought the company.</p><p></p><p>And did you read what I wrote about most DMs I've played under ignoring errata?</p><p></p><p>I don't WANT to ignore the errata. But I can't 'clean-room reverse engineer' OGC house rules to clean up problems with the d20 SRD if I study non-OGC material such as the errata.</p><p></p><p>The legal problems would be comparable to taking the monsters from the SRD and making an OGC compendium of monsters with lots of changes to fit my game -- and including the illithids. As soon as I put such a compendium of monsters on a website, I'd be violating the law because illithids, while they are in the Monster Manual, are NOT in the SRD and are NOT OGC. (Technically, by a strict reading of the OGL, I'd be violating the OGL as soon as I put illithids in my compendium of monsters, but who would know until I put it on a website?)</p><p></p><p>I would be very happy if the errata were OGC, or at least if the SRD were updated to match the errata, which would amount to the same thing.</p><p></p><p>(Does anyone know who to talk to at WotC about this? (Their website is a little confusing for such issues.) I'm not optimistic about getting the errata into the SRD or classified as OGC, considering that the 3.0 SRD was never updated, but I figure an email to the right person wouldn't hurt.)</p><p></p><p>BTW, the Open Gaming License gives people many rights regarding Open Gaming Content that are not available under default copyright law -- at least, not without some license or another. But it also TAKES AWAY some Fair Use rights. If you can't live with losing those rights, you're not allowed to use the Open Gaming Content in question under the terms of the Open Gaming License. Do a Google search for Ryan Dancy's many discussions on the subject.</p><p></p><p>NOW BACK ON-TOPIC :</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Very, very true. Considering that hit points are supposed to partially represent avoiding injury, I would never allow sunder against a worn item unless the victim is either helpless or reduced to ten hit points or less. Want to sunder something worn as closely as a ring? Render the victim helpless first and use a coup de grace to chop off their finger.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Good. Some people say that "it's only a game, don't try to make it simulate reality." If I'm going to play a game where I am PENALIZED for depending on real world common sense, I'll just switch to a card game like UNO or maybe a computer game. Or better yet, go read a book.</p><p></p><p>Unless common sense trumps silly rules, immersion in the game is ruined.</p><p> </p><p>[....]</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>later,</p><p>--index</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="index, post: 1651753, member: 21195"] [b]mostly off-topic[/b] I'm sorry to waste so much room on stuff that's mostly off-topic, but violation of copyright law can land people in jail very quickly, and has many times in the past with companies less enlightened than WotC. Thanee wrote: So? Free to read and download (in one single place) does NOT mean free to re-use. Did you read what I wrote? If I can't easily and LEGALLY share it with players, it's USELESS. Obviously you've never been beaten with the Copyright Law club. First, the law on Fair Use is intentionally vague. Second, corporations generally have big lawyers. Third, publically owned corporations are REQUIRED to put profit first, before considerations such as common decency. If a publically owned corporation can profit from abuse of a customer, it WILL. Peter Adkison tried to make Wizards of the Coast into a different kind of company, but pressure from profit-oriented corporate members and business partners forced Mr. Adkison and WotC into a more typical corporate mold even before Hasbro bought the company. And did you read what I wrote about most DMs I've played under ignoring errata? I don't WANT to ignore the errata. But I can't 'clean-room reverse engineer' OGC house rules to clean up problems with the d20 SRD if I study non-OGC material such as the errata. The legal problems would be comparable to taking the monsters from the SRD and making an OGC compendium of monsters with lots of changes to fit my game -- and including the illithids. As soon as I put such a compendium of monsters on a website, I'd be violating the law because illithids, while they are in the Monster Manual, are NOT in the SRD and are NOT OGC. (Technically, by a strict reading of the OGL, I'd be violating the OGL as soon as I put illithids in my compendium of monsters, but who would know until I put it on a website?) I would be very happy if the errata were OGC, or at least if the SRD were updated to match the errata, which would amount to the same thing. (Does anyone know who to talk to at WotC about this? (Their website is a little confusing for such issues.) I'm not optimistic about getting the errata into the SRD or classified as OGC, considering that the 3.0 SRD was never updated, but I figure an email to the right person wouldn't hurt.) BTW, the Open Gaming License gives people many rights regarding Open Gaming Content that are not available under default copyright law -- at least, not without some license or another. But it also TAKES AWAY some Fair Use rights. If you can't live with losing those rights, you're not allowed to use the Open Gaming Content in question under the terms of the Open Gaming License. Do a Google search for Ryan Dancy's many discussions on the subject. NOW BACK ON-TOPIC : Very, very true. Considering that hit points are supposed to partially represent avoiding injury, I would never allow sunder against a worn item unless the victim is either helpless or reduced to ten hit points or less. Want to sunder something worn as closely as a ring? Render the victim helpless first and use a coup de grace to chop off their finger. Good. Some people say that "it's only a game, don't try to make it simulate reality." If I'm going to play a game where I am PENALIZED for depending on real world common sense, I'll just switch to a card game like UNO or maybe a computer game. Or better yet, go read a book. Unless common sense trumps silly rules, immersion in the game is ruined. [....] later, --index [/QUOTE]
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