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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 9393572" data-attributes="member: 177">(I had to walk away from my keyboard for several hours, so maybe others have covered this)I see a couple of issues here:You are assuming far too much in asserting the &quot;doesn't apply&quot; bits.&nbsp; You, the person who declares the action, don't get to just flatly assert what does and does not apply.&nbsp; You're making a shield, using metal and coal in a world of scarcity.&nbsp; Using them may mean that something else can't be made - maybe the harvest will be bad because those resources aren't used on fixing farm equipment.&nbsp; An important person in the community may feel it is wasteful and is willing to come into personal conflict over it bringing social consequences to bear.&nbsp; Or, maybe someone is going to be willing to beat you up and take your shield.All those things can apply.&nbsp; And, by the sound of it, in AW, if you want the mechanical benefit of a Move, some of that has to apply.&nbsp; Otherwise, we just narrate that you make a shield, but you gain none of the possible mechanical benefits of any Moves.&nbsp; Yeah, but having &quot;simply succeed&quot; be a possible result is not actually a requirement!&nbsp; The mechanics must allow you to reach your goal, but they don't have to allow you to do so without consequences or complications.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 9393572, member: 177"] (I had to walk away from my keyboard for several hours, so maybe others have covered this) I see a couple of issues here: You are assuming far too much in asserting the "doesn't apply" bits. You, the person who declares the action, don't get to just flatly assert what does and does not apply. You're making a shield, using metal and coal in a world of scarcity. Using them may mean that something else can't be made - maybe the harvest will be bad because those resources aren't used on fixing farm equipment. An important person in the community may feel it is wasteful and is willing to come into personal conflict over it bringing social consequences to bear. Or, maybe someone is going to be willing to beat you up and take your shield. All those things [I]can[/I] apply. And, by the sound of it, in AW, if you want the mechanical benefit of a Move, some of that [I]has to[/I] apply. Otherwise, we just narrate that you make a shield, but you gain none of the possible mechanical benefits of any Moves. Yeah, but having "simply succeed" be a possible result is not actually a requirement! The mechanics must allow you to reach your goal, but they don't have to allow you to do so without consequences or complications. [/QUOTE]

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