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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9394622" data-attributes="member: 6790260">So, where does that put things like, say, the Paladin's Quest move? Because there, the player declares their Quest and the Boons that quest provides--with examples for guidance, but purely declared by the player--and then the GM declares what Vows, again with examples for guidance, the Paladin must uphold in order to retain their Boons and their divine connection. A failure to uphold those Vows forfeits the benefits until the Paladin can ritually cleans themselves, and that might be a significant undertaking in its own right.That's not automatic, it requires no rolls, and no one spends resources. Both sides, in a certain sense, are "wagering"; the Paladin in choosing a reasonable quest befitting the established events/facts of the world ("the fiction"), and reasonable boons for pursuing that quest. The GM, in kind, chooses Vows that will complicate the completion of that quest in interesting, action-provoking ways. E.g., I once chose a quest to aid a dwarven smith-fortress besieged by orcs, and chose as my boons A Mark of Divine Authority and Invulnerability to Fire. The GM chose, as my Vows, Valor (forbidden: suffering an evil creature to live) and Hospitality (required: comfort to those in need, no matter who they are)--because he knew that the reason the orcs were besieging the city was because they were using a kidnapped red dragon (an evil creature!)....which was being tortured, and having its children tortured or slain, to keep it enslaved to fire their forges. This created an interesting conundrum: how would my Paladin deal with the situation? He has to render aid to anyone in need, and surely the dragon's children, and likely the dragon itself, would be in need. But it is a creature of evil! Fortunately, the choice was ultimately taken out of my Paladin's hands for unrelated reasons, and the red dragon broke free as an ancient vampire red dragon. (Complicated story, would take too long to explain. Suffice it to say a questionably-rational halfling fighter stuffed a vial of ancient vampire blood into the dragon's neck to "empower" it so it could escape.)That was a really good campaign of DW.</blockquote>

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