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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 9398087" data-attributes="member: 29398">I once had just this situation come up in an old game of mine: a low-ish level party stumbles on to a big ol' Red Dragon and (aided by the Dragon's reaction roll) decides to negotiate, or at least chat, kind of in Bilbo-vs-Smaug style.Or, as happened in my case, the gonzo-style chaotic players take away any chance for me to make such judgment calls: while some of the party exchanged pleasantries with the dragon, some others in the party (unbeknownst to those chatting) used the talking as a distraction, crept around behind the dragon, and (surprisingly successfully!) attacked it from the rear.Its first reaction, of course, was to breathe forward; meaning those who had innocently been talking all got fried.  It then turned on its attackers, but by this time (and 1e Dragons being the glass cannons that they are) it was already in a world o' hurt.  End result: they lost half the party but did kill the dragon.They never found its hoard, though, as the Dragon was AFB at the time.</blockquote>