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<blockquote data-quote="N'raac" data-source="post: 5762634" data-attributes="member: 6681948">This seems hugely punitive to classes that cast spontaneously under the existing rules.&nbsp; Why would anyone ever want to be a Sorceror or an Oracle rather than a Wizard or Cleric?&nbsp; It seems like one starts the day with a full repertoire of spells available, subject only to mana, so who cares if I can't cast any given spell multiple times?&nbsp;Adding spells to the repertoire becomes the goal - I only expect to cast Magic Missile once a day, so I need lots more offensive L1 spells.&nbsp;&nbsp;And needs a day of bed rest to recover them all.&nbsp; Maybe the recovery rate should be linked to level, like hit points are (anyone else remember when a high level character would need months to heal naturally?).&nbsp;With a fixed 5 points per level, a L1 wizard with 16 INT (pretty modest) gets 20 points, and can cast 20 L1 spells a day (he'll fail all the retention checks long before running out of Manna).&nbsp;A L 15 wizard with, say, 28 INT will have 120 Manna.&nbsp; He needs 100 to cast his current spells per day, with no bonus spells factored in.&nbsp;Do multiclasses need to track separate Manna pools?&nbsp; How much do Paladins, Bards and Rangers get?&nbsp; if it's the same 5 per level + 5x ability bonus, their spellcasting capability just went WAY up.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="N'raac, post: 5762634, member: 6681948"] This seems hugely punitive to classes that cast spontaneously under the existing rules. Why would anyone ever want to be a Sorceror or an Oracle rather than a Wizard or Cleric? It seems like one starts the day with a full repertoire of spells available, subject only to mana, so who cares if I can't cast any given spell multiple times? Adding spells to the repertoire becomes the goal - I only expect to cast Magic Missile once a day, so I need lots more offensive L1 spells. And needs a day of bed rest to recover them all. Maybe the recovery rate should be linked to level, like hit points are (anyone else remember when a high level character would need months to heal naturally?). With a fixed 5 points per level, a L1 wizard with 16 INT (pretty modest) gets 20 points, and can cast 20 L1 spells a day (he'll fail all the retention checks long before running out of Manna). A L 15 wizard with, say, 28 INT will have 120 Manna. He needs 100 to cast his current spells per day, with no bonus spells factored in. Do multiclasses need to track separate Manna pools? How much do Paladins, Bards and Rangers get? if it's the same 5 per level + 5x ability bonus, their spellcasting capability just went WAY up. [/QUOTE]

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