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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Witness" data-source="post: 428664" data-attributes="member: 1500">You've got some nice ideas but they aren't implimented very well.To truly make the Ranger versatile, give bonus feats instead of "Special Techniques."  Insead of 2 bonus feats at one level, give 1 at 1st and another at 2nd.  Also, I've always though that a Ranger should be able to mix and match "Techniques" so rather than having to take either 2weapon feats OR Bow feats they could take any combination of certain feats.Perception and Stealth:  1st of all, as was said in that other thread, the Ranger is not and should should not be more stealthy than the Rogue.  The way you have it now, a Ranger with maxed out Hide/Move S is better at those skils than a Rogue of equal level.  You should limit Stealth to Wilderness or a Natural setting.  Also, the Perception/Stealth bonus should be either/ or. Every other level they get EITHER a +1 to Spot and Listen OR a bonus to Hide and Move S.  You might want to through in other possible skill combos such as Ride and Handle A, Animal Empathy and Handle A, Climb and Jump, etc.  Another option is to just allow them Skil Mastery at higher levels.For the Stalker ability, how about Nondetection or Freedom of Movement instead of Invisibility.All told, not the worst Alt Ranger I've seen, but definately not hte best.  You give the Ranger to many new abilities when the only apparent trade offs are less HP and delaying the 2Weap feats till 2nd level.</blockquote>

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