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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Matthias" data-source="post: 6075060" data-attributes="member: 3625"><p>The general idea behind the system I posted originally was to treat each archetype as its own separate class co-equal with the 'null' archetype (class without archetype). Characters would be able to level up in archetypes, and even combine different archetypes of the same class. This way you could have something like a "level 50 Ranger" without having to expand the Ranger class with 50 levels' worth of unique abilities. The unique alternative abilities of a different archetype are what you gain for those extra levels, increasing versatility (giving you more tricks and tools to draw from) without increasing your bonuses to absurdly high levels. Given enough levels, every character in a party can achieve self-sufficiency with 20 levels in each staple class but there is still enough variation in the Pathfinder rules as written that no two Disgusting Characters(tm) can be easily confused. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>