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<blockquote data-quote="candidus_cogitens" data-source="post: 726110" data-attributes="member: 770">I appreciate your suggestions, Marauder.&nbsp; Some of them I had thought about in a previous draft of this class.&nbsp; At one point I had two classes, a prophet and a priest.&nbsp; The priest's spellcasting was charisma based, and the prophet's were wisdom based.&nbsp; Eventually, I gave up on the priest as a class, because it seems like more of an NPC role.&nbsp;&nbsp; But, I would still consider using charisma as the chief ability.&nbsp; Both have a distinct flavor.&nbsp; My inclination is to try to keep it fairly similar to the cleric class, based on the idea that it is often better to tinker less.The &quot;priest&quot; that I created was much less combat oriented.&nbsp; Only a d6, or d4.&nbsp; No armor.&nbsp; Fewer weapons.&nbsp; But the feedback I got on this was that in comparison to the cleric class, I had taken away a significant amount, and not given much back.&nbsp; And in comparison to the wizard class, divine spells simply are not as powerful.&nbsp; One thing I considered was to have the priest's spell knowledge be as though he were one level higher.&nbsp; But that might cause other problems.The whole motivation for tinkering with the cleric is that it has archetype problems.&nbsp; It's based on the medieval Christian crusader.&nbsp; And that is such a particular historical phenomenon that I find it rather awkward when transfered to a different context.&nbsp;&nbsp; A priestly type who wears heavy armor is just ... strange.So, I tried to go for something more flexible, loosely based on Old Testament prophets, like Moses, Joshua, and Elijah, who are somewhat war-like, but cheifly distinguished by their connection to the divine.&nbsp; They are much more adventure-ready than a simple priest, but not exactly soldier-like.In my own campaign, I use this class as a substitute for the cleric.&nbsp; If you wanted to use it IN ADDITION to the cleric, rather than IN PLACE OF it, then you might reasobably feel that this class is too similar to the cleric, and you might want to distinguish it more by emphasizing Charisma more, for example.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="candidus_cogitens, post: 726110, member: 770"] I appreciate your suggestions, Marauder. Some of them I had thought about in a previous draft of this class. At one point I had two classes, a prophet and a priest. The priest's spellcasting was charisma based, and the prophet's were wisdom based. Eventually, I gave up on the priest as a class, because it seems like more of an NPC role. But, I would still consider using charisma as the chief ability. Both have a distinct flavor. My inclination is to try to keep it fairly similar to the cleric class, based on the idea that it is often better to tinker less. The "priest" that I created was much less combat oriented. Only a d6, or d4. No armor. Fewer weapons. But the feedback I got on this was that in comparison to the cleric class, I had taken away a significant amount, and not given much back. And in comparison to the wizard class, divine spells simply are not as powerful. One thing I considered was to have the priest's spell knowledge be as though he were one level higher. But that might cause other problems. The whole motivation for tinkering with the cleric is that it has archetype problems. It's based on the medieval Christian crusader. And that is such a particular historical phenomenon that I find it rather awkward when transfered to a different context. A priestly type who wears heavy armor is just ... strange. So, I tried to go for something more flexible, loosely based on Old Testament prophets, like Moses, Joshua, and Elijah, who are somewhat war-like, but cheifly distinguished by their connection to the divine. They are much more adventure-ready than a simple priest, but not exactly soldier-like. In my own campaign, I use this class as a substitute for the cleric. If you wanted to use it IN ADDITION to the cleric, rather than IN PLACE OF it, then you might reasobably feel that this class is too similar to the cleric, and you might want to distinguish it more by emphasizing Charisma more, for example. [/QUOTE]

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