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<blockquote data-quote="BobTheNob" data-source="post: 5933418" data-attributes="member: 82425">I think your suggestion is fine. Rest assured, there are those who agree with your position.For my part, I dont mind at-will spells, I just dont want potent combat spams. A d4+Stat with save = nothing (or miss vs AC, but I prefer saves when dealing with spells) is about as kicky as I would get.4e did point out some things like prestigintation. Great use for an at-will. Our wizard use to use it in all sorts of goofy ways, and it was great that its subtlety lent itself to player creativity, and player didnt&nbsp; have to concern himself with resource management. It was as good as he made it, not as good as the number of charges it had.So yea, I think there is room for at-wills, just not combat spammers. For instance MM. If MM was just a &quot;You throw 3 missiles&quot; 1st level spell, it would have worked just fine. Great for low-level encounters, still got some reason to use later (when you should be pumping out higher level spells for effect anyway).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BobTheNob, post: 5933418, member: 82425"] I think your suggestion is fine. Rest assured, there are those who agree with your position. For my part, I dont mind at-will spells, I just dont want potent combat spams. A d4+Stat with save = nothing (or miss vs AC, but I prefer saves when dealing with spells) is about as kicky as I would get. 4e did point out some things like prestigintation. Great use for an at-will. Our wizard use to use it in all sorts of goofy ways, and it was great that its subtlety lent itself to player creativity, and player didnt have to concern himself with resource management. It was as good as he made it, not as good as the number of charges it had. So yea, I think there is room for at-wills, just not combat spammers. For instance MM. If MM was just a "You throw 3 missiles" 1st level spell, it would have worked just fine. Great for low-level encounters, still got some reason to use later (when you should be pumping out higher level spells for effect anyway). [/QUOTE]

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