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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wyvern" data-source="post: 7384567" data-attributes="member: 2374">Hmm... still not exactly thematic to the particular domains, but if a cleric absolutely *must* have some sort of defensive ability in that slot, I like it better than heavy armor proficiency.I'm not sure that's really necessary since divine strike can be used on any weapon attack (not just melee). Also, the parallelism of the different domains giving different types of bonus damage is an aspect of their design that I liked.Spare the dying as a bonus cantrip could work. It's touch-range, though, so it would still require the cleric to get right in the mix instead of providing support from the sidelines. That's why I suggested letting them cure wounds at range.  I'd still like to know what people think of that idea. (If it's too powerful, maybe a compromise solution could work -- give them spare the dying as a bonus cantrip, but with a 30-foot range.)Thunderbolt is a nice concept, but the name implies thunder damage. (Plus it sounds too similar to their 6th-level Thunderbolt Strike ability -- which also does lightning damage. Go figure.) You can't call it lightning bolt for obvious reasons. How about calling it shocking bolt and giving it the effect of shocking grasp with the range of firebolt?The only idea I've come up for Nature clerics is to give them either animal friendship or speak with animals at will (or maybe once per short rest) and sub in entangle as a bonus domain spell. That might step on the druid's toes too much, though, and I'd rather give them something that's unique to them.Thoughts?Wyvern</blockquote>

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