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<blockquote data-quote="MortonStromgal" data-source="post: 5297074" data-attributes="member: 76231">What RPGs have you played? I can see D&amp;D (XP for killing stuff) maybe something like Shadowrun (it can happen but the cops will be on your bum) but Vampire, in the words of smiling jack &quot;its the politics that will kill you&quot; Once you get into indie games there are even more options. Unknown Armies even has a page dedicated to how not to get in a fight.Sounds like you dont have real world consequences for their actions. The innkeeper may be a relative of a powerful underworld boss. Having the occasional thief follow and steal their stuff while leaving notes like &quot;This is for my uncle you murdering pig dogs, I will make you pay and suffer a fate worse than death&quot; is a good way to start. Just don't have it happen all the time, let them even kill a thief or two who was going to take their stuff, then bring in the whole thieves guild who wants to take them alive. You have the changes at a reoccurring BBEG here <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> as they escape the theives dungeon only to then be houned by the law (the underworld boss turned politician) etc etc</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MortonStromgal, post: 5297074, member: 76231"] What RPGs have you played? I can see D&D (XP for killing stuff) maybe something like Shadowrun (it can happen but the cops will be on your bum) but Vampire, in the words of smiling jack "its the politics that will kill you" Once you get into indie games there are even more options. Unknown Armies even has a page dedicated to how not to get in a fight. Sounds like you dont have real world consequences for their actions. The innkeeper may be a relative of a powerful underworld boss. Having the occasional thief follow and steal their stuff while leaving notes like "This is for my uncle you murdering pig dogs, I will make you pay and suffer a fate worse than death" is a good way to start. Just don't have it happen all the time, let them even kill a thief or two who was going to take their stuff, then bring in the whole thieves guild who wants to take them alive. You have the changes at a reoccurring BBEG here ;) as they escape the theives dungeon only to then be houned by the law (the underworld boss turned politician) etc etc [/QUOTE]

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