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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Noelani" data-source="post: 1878813" data-attributes="member: 26458">PC3 speaks.I'm one of the other players in this game, mentioned previously as PC3 and as "the live-in SO". (FIANCE, dammit. SO indeed!!)What Ambrus has neglected to mention is that we're geased to follow this quest through. WE HAVE NO CHOICE. We HAVE to get the artifact back or we'll die a slow ugly death. Its not like the quest was over, either. The artifact had to be repaired and we had to find a way to get it to the Gods themselves. Not a minor undertaking.I -did- do a sense motive check when one of the gnomes told us his plan. He was really clear what he was going to be doing, about the crates and getting us onto the ship, etc. I rolled a very high check. Apparently he still seemed sincere. I still didn't trust them. I've been the voice of dissention against the gnomes from the beginning. (This is all sort of ironic, given that I play a priestess of joy, and I'm the one who's the most pissed off).Further, amongst the party we have a ridiculous amount of charisma. The paladin (Ketherian, or PC5) has a Cha 20, my cleric has 19 and the sorcerer (PC2) has 18. We made our intentions very clear to the gnomes as well. We spoke to them kindly and reasonably. We were very diplomatic. (I should ALSO mention here that I have a diplomacy check of 30.) If we can't win people over to our side, no one can. And we really were trying. Or at least I felt I was. Despite distrusting the gnomes. So much for that.ALSO not mentioned, and I think this is the kicker, is that one of the PCs (PC1?) is himself a gnome. I honestly think in and out of game, that he was conspiring against the party the whole time. He's always seemed to have his own agenda, despite what the rest of the party wants, says or does. He's often off on his own. He was suspected of conspiring with the gnomes previously as well.  So the betrayal of the gnomes thus becomes the betrayal of PC1. I'm not the only one who feels this way. (Absent PC4 will agree, for one).This all boils down to: All the NPCS are out to get us, possibly without exception. Other PCs are out to get us, so the party itself is doomed to in-fighting from here on out. We can't ever win, no matter what we do, how long we play, or how hard we try. Every little victory we gain seems to be ripped away from us within a session or so.I'm very tired of losing.This isn't a matter of us PCs being incompetent. Its a matter of the world being completely stacked against us.I think we had enough to do without being on a quest YET AGAIN to find the stupid thing. I wish I could wash my hands of the quest, honestly, but then my character would die. Because of the aforementioned geas.I think my anger remains justified.</blockquote>

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