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Message: <blockquote data-quote="swrushing" data-source="post: 1892220" data-attributes="member: 14140"></blockquote>In case i wasn't clear... i am done with responding to your repeated misrepresentations of others' positions. Misinterpreting to the extreme side others' positions is a classic trolling bait and i feel i have made myself clear enough to everyone who was really listening.LOTR was originally one novel, split into three sections by thepublisher iirc.Whats the difference between TT ending that way and a scenario ending that way?First, when i finish LOTR: TT I pick up the next book or i turn the page and I proceed with the continuation. I do nto sit and stew in my own juices for a period of time. This is very different from ending a game session on such a note where the players wait until next week or whenever the next session begins.Second, the dark end in LOTR was not handled as a failure BY ME, the reader, but merely a dark turn in the story. I never made the decisions to enter Shelob's lair. In the game in question, the session ended with them "in defeat" and that defeat painted as "by their own hands" so to speak. It did not end with "Oh crap, frodo is in a fix" but with "oh crap, we screwed up" at best or "oh crap, you hosed us" at worst. You, or at least I, do not want to end a session and let things fester on those terms.Again, i think i described the benefits and possibilities of having a planned and well thought out reversal occur in mid or early session launching immediately into the dramatic follow ups well enough for anyone who was willing to consider it in my earlier post.The Gm seemed unhappy or at least unsettled at having his session end so negatively as well.[/QUOTE]

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