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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Uller" data-source="post: 1435856" data-attributes="member: 413">I like them too.  I just worry that sometimes my style of gaming doesn't always match all of theirs (which is natural...all groups seem to have that trouble).Maybe.   But I was thinking.  A Cleric 6 (Trickery and Destruction) could deliver an Inflict Serious Wounds that does an average of 19.5 (or 24.5 with Smite) damage and wouldn't need to use Sneak Attack to do it.  This character, using Inflict Moderate wounds (his toughest spell) can do 19 (22 with Smite) on average but needs it to be a sneak attack.  So it balances out I think...it isn't like some massive smack down now that I think about it.They're above average for the most part (the Fighter/Cleric has 40...the lowest one is the rogue that has 17).  So I don't think this NPC could kill any of them outright unless they were wounded first (which would be his strategy...let his minions wound them then move in for the kill).Yep.  But even in 3.0 they are both a deflection bonus...my bad.  Thanks!Heh!  Yes and not really at once!  I gave the NPC that because I wanted to give him a magic item other than magic armor and a magic weapon.  So this seemed interesting.  The Ftr/Clr's wisdom didn't really occur to me at the time (at least not conciously).  It certainly would benefit him and (assuming he keeps his fighter and cleric levels equal) should keep him able to cast his best spells up through 12th level.  However, he and I had a long arguement about spells like Owl's Wisdom and Eagle's Splendor.  He railed against the notion of using magic to boost a character's wis, int or cha scores (I can't explain his POV as I still don't understand it).  So I don't think he'd even like it.  Plus his character destroyed a suit of +1 Scale Mail because it was "unclean" or something.  I didn't really get that either...the campaign world is a standard magic level world where magic items are a pretty common thing...but whatever, I'm not going to tell him how to play his character.  I did try to explain to him that his god doesn't demand that magic items be destroyed unless they are evil and that the scale mail armor was just as likely from a good source and stolen as from an evil source, but he didn't care...So he may destroy the periapt of Wisdom anyway since it is being worn by a goblin cleric to an evil god (which will just make me laugh).</blockquote>

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