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<blockquote data-quote="Primitive Screwhead" data-source="post: 2626989" data-attributes="member: 20805">Here is how I see this working in the rules.. and how I use it in my gameGroup gathers at door and overhears enemy.{Start Initiative}Players can stack, using delays, and enter when they are prepared to do so.Enemy are treated as if they join in combat when they become aware of the group.Initiative continues as normal.This means that the Ambushers can get a planned set of actions off prior to the enemy reacting...but there is no 'surprise round'.&nbsp; Most of the enemy will have to burn some of thier first actions preparing for battle.Of course, this works in reverse as well... very well <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Technically it is per RAW, as the 'start of combat' is left up to the GM.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Primitive Screwhead, post: 2626989, member: 20805"] Here is how I see this working in the rules.. and how I use it in my game Group gathers at door and overhears enemy. {Start Initiative} Players can stack, using delays, and enter when they are prepared to do so. Enemy are treated as if they join in combat when they become aware of the group. Initiative continues as normal. This means that the Ambushers can get a planned set of actions off prior to the enemy reacting...but there is no 'surprise round'. Most of the enemy will have to burn some of thier first actions preparing for battle. Of course, this works in reverse as well... very well :) Technically it is per RAW, as the 'start of combat' is left up to the GM. [/QUOTE]

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