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<blockquote data-quote="Demoquin" data-source="post: 2638431" data-attributes="member: 27818">Well if the 'leader' is actually telling the best modes of attack ... i assume you are counting that as a round or two that the enemies can have listen checks for. Whispering may cause that idea to mute as you have a door and distance to factor in. but in case of the natural 20. If you are not prepping on what to do, why do you care how the party responds to the situation? Not everyone will agree that the mage or the archer may be the best target. Some might assume that the other char might take him/them and i will take the one in the corner?Just remember that the best laid plans if or rarely ever work out. On paper your SWAT style approach looks good. But that also depends on what is behind the door. I always assume for the worse as everything else becomes a relief. Lets say that there is a highly armed fighter with a reach weapon and Combat Reflexes and a fairly good DEX score. There is no way you can win with that as he can take AoO's when it is flatfooted. You could try to make some use of the Obscurring Mist spell. It will allow everyone (more or less) to get in the room with little hamperment and a 20% miss chance that works both ways.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Demoquin, post: 2638431, member: 27818"] Well if the 'leader' is actually telling the best modes of attack ... i assume you are counting that as a round or two that the enemies can have listen checks for. Whispering may cause that idea to mute as you have a door and distance to factor in. but in case of the natural 20. If you are not prepping on what to do, why do you care how the party responds to the situation? Not everyone will agree that the mage or the archer may be the best target. Some might assume that the other char might take him/them and i will take the one in the corner? Just remember that the best laid plans if or rarely ever work out. On paper your SWAT style approach looks good. But that also depends on what is behind the door. I always assume for the worse as everything else becomes a relief. Lets say that there is a highly armed fighter with a reach weapon and Combat Reflexes and a fairly good DEX score. There is no way you can win with that as he can take AoO's when it is flatfooted. You could try to make some use of the Obscurring Mist spell. It will allow everyone (more or less) to get in the room with little hamperment and a 20% miss chance that works both ways. [/QUOTE]

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