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Am I correct that I can make a quadruple vampire?
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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5596638" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>If you don't go Revenant, you can get the Vampire Hertigate feats:</p><p></p><p></p><p>====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======</p><p><strong>Elvira, Vampire Floozie 1st Class</strong></p><p>Vryloka, Vampire, Vampire Noble</p><p>Bloodline: Beguiler Bloodline</p><p>Blood Drain Option: Blood Drain Dexterity</p><p>Restless Dead (Restless Dead Benefit)</p><p> </p><p>FINAL ABILITY SCORES</p><p>STR 12, CON 13, DEX 21, INT 12, WIS 9, CHA 21</p><p> </p><p>STARTING ABILITY SCORES</p><p>STR 11, CON 12, DEX 16, INT 11, WIS 8, CHA 16</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>AC: 24 Fort: 21 Ref: 24 Will: 25</p><p>HP: 75 Surges: 4 Surge Value: 18</p><p> </p><p>TRAINED SKILLS</p><p>Bluff +17, Diplomacy +15, Intimidate +15, Stealth +17</p><p> </p><p>UNTRAINED SKILLS</p><p>Acrobatics +10, Arcana +6, Athletics +6, Dungeoneering +4, Endurance +6, Heal +4, History +6, Insight +4, Nature +4, Perception +6, Religion +6, Streetwise +10, Thievery +10</p><p> </p><p>POWERS</p><p>Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack</p><p>Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack</p><p>Vryloka Utility: Lifeblood</p><p>Vampire Attack: Blood Drinker</p><p>Feat Power: Blood Drain</p><p>Vampire Attack 1: Swarm of Shadows</p><p>Vampire Attack 1: Dark Beckoning</p><p>Vampire Attack 1: Taste of Life</p><p>Vampire Attack 1: Vampire Slam</p><p>Vampire Utility 2: Charming Gaze</p><p>Vampire Attack 3: Feral Assault</p><p>Vampire Utility 4: Strength of Blood</p><p>Vampire Attack 5: Unfettered Hunger</p><p>Vampire Utility 6: Form of the Bat</p><p>Vampire Attack 9: Domineering Gaze</p><p>Vampire Utility 10: Gaseous Form</p><p> </p><p>FEATS</p><p>Level 1: Vampiric Heritage</p><p>Level 2: Vampire Alacrity</p><p>Level 4: Disciple of Shadows</p><p>Level 6: Ki Focus Expertise</p><p>Level 8: Durable</p><p>Level 10: Improved Defenses</p><p>Level 11: Savage Bite</p><p> </p><p>ITEMS</p><p>Magic Ki Focus +3 x1</p><p>Counterstrike Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing) +2 x1</p><p>Periapt of Proof against Poison +2 x1</p><p>Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing)</p><p>Adventurer's Kit</p><p>Ki Focus</p><p>====== End ======</p><p></p><p>It's interesting to compare the overlapping abilities. You have multiple sources by 11th level that turn you into bats (Vryloka + Class), drain blood (Class + Bloodline), give you low-light vision (Vryloka + Bloodline), and turn you into clouds of mist (Class + Bloodline), and make you "undead" (Vryloka + Class). About the only unique aspect is the Vryloka LV 6 "Bloodwolf Form," which is the only wolf-form thing you can get at this point. To get it, you'd have to give up either a bat form, or a cloud of mist, from your class abilities. Which you might do, if your vampire concept really needs to have a wolf in it.</p><p></p><p>Of course, you could go Vampire Hybrid, and grab Druid or Ranger powers to get that Creatures of the Night mix, as a Beastmaster, or with your Wild Shape. Ranger is not a bad fix, hybrid-speaking, actually. Dex focus would do well. Bard could be intersting for the Cha-monkeys, as it would give you a lot of charm and manipulation powers, but it doesn't seem like it would be as useful as a Ranger.</p><p></p><p>Still a totally functional character.</p><p></p><p>In fact, my group might be loosing a striker in a week or two as we shift DMs and our current warforged barbarian becomes the DM. I might jump on this. Seems like it'll be at LEAST as effective as the gnome night stalker assassin I've whipped up. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 5596638, member: 2067"] If you don't go Revenant, you can get the Vampire Hertigate feats: ====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ====== [B]Elvira, Vampire Floozie 1st Class[/B] Vryloka, Vampire, Vampire Noble Bloodline: Beguiler Bloodline Blood Drain Option: Blood Drain Dexterity Restless Dead (Restless Dead Benefit) FINAL ABILITY SCORES STR 12, CON 13, DEX 21, INT 12, WIS 9, CHA 21 STARTING ABILITY SCORES STR 11, CON 12, DEX 16, INT 11, WIS 8, CHA 16 AC: 24 Fort: 21 Ref: 24 Will: 25 HP: 75 Surges: 4 Surge Value: 18 TRAINED SKILLS Bluff +17, Diplomacy +15, Intimidate +15, Stealth +17 UNTRAINED SKILLS Acrobatics +10, Arcana +6, Athletics +6, Dungeoneering +4, Endurance +6, Heal +4, History +6, Insight +4, Nature +4, Perception +6, Religion +6, Streetwise +10, Thievery +10 POWERS Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack Vryloka Utility: Lifeblood Vampire Attack: Blood Drinker Feat Power: Blood Drain Vampire Attack 1: Swarm of Shadows Vampire Attack 1: Dark Beckoning Vampire Attack 1: Taste of Life Vampire Attack 1: Vampire Slam Vampire Utility 2: Charming Gaze Vampire Attack 3: Feral Assault Vampire Utility 4: Strength of Blood Vampire Attack 5: Unfettered Hunger Vampire Utility 6: Form of the Bat Vampire Attack 9: Domineering Gaze Vampire Utility 10: Gaseous Form FEATS Level 1: Vampiric Heritage Level 2: Vampire Alacrity Level 4: Disciple of Shadows Level 6: Ki Focus Expertise Level 8: Durable Level 10: Improved Defenses Level 11: Savage Bite ITEMS Magic Ki Focus +3 x1 Counterstrike Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing) +2 x1 Periapt of Proof against Poison +2 x1 Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing) Adventurer's Kit Ki Focus ====== End ====== It's interesting to compare the overlapping abilities. You have multiple sources by 11th level that turn you into bats (Vryloka + Class), drain blood (Class + Bloodline), give you low-light vision (Vryloka + Bloodline), and turn you into clouds of mist (Class + Bloodline), and make you "undead" (Vryloka + Class). About the only unique aspect is the Vryloka LV 6 "Bloodwolf Form," which is the only wolf-form thing you can get at this point. To get it, you'd have to give up either a bat form, or a cloud of mist, from your class abilities. Which you might do, if your vampire concept really needs to have a wolf in it. Of course, you could go Vampire Hybrid, and grab Druid or Ranger powers to get that Creatures of the Night mix, as a Beastmaster, or with your Wild Shape. Ranger is not a bad fix, hybrid-speaking, actually. Dex focus would do well. Bard could be intersting for the Cha-monkeys, as it would give you a lot of charm and manipulation powers, but it doesn't seem like it would be as useful as a Ranger. Still a totally functional character. In fact, my group might be loosing a striker in a week or two as we shift DMs and our current warforged barbarian becomes the DM. I might jump on this. Seems like it'll be at LEAST as effective as the gnome night stalker assassin I've whipped up. :) [/QUOTE]
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