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<blockquote data-quote="Richards" data-source="post: 9797560" data-attributes="member: 508"><p>Some further thoughts:</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure what edition you're using; I'm a 3.5 guy and so this is all going to be using what I know of the 3.5 rules - there might be some tweaking of this concept if you're using 5E rules. (I honestly don't know enough about 5E to confirm.) However, it strikes me that if you're using the curse concept, a night hag might be a reasonable explanation of what's going on here: she's got a slightly different version of the "dream haunting" supernatural ability going on, in that instead of entering the victim's dreams and riding him all night in his dreams, she's literally transforming him into a nightmare and physically riding him all night. So the PCs would be trying to fight the night hag, not realizing the nightmare steed she's riding is the centaur game warden who asked them to help him track down and stop the hag in the first place. Maybe her hold on him grows stronger each night, and if nobody can stop the process she'll eventually turn him permanently into a nightmare. (Maybe that's where nightmares actually come from? Just a possibility.) </p><p></p><p>There are a few possible obstacles to this approach: in 3.5 at least, night hags can normally only enter the dreams of chaotic or evil dreamers, and the centaur default alignment is neutral good. You might need to come up with a reason around that. Also, night hags in 3.5 are CR 9 and nightmares are CR 5; I'm not sure what level you were shooting for for your 3-5 game sessions, so that might a disqualifier.</p><p></p><p>Johnathan</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Richards, post: 9797560, member: 508"] Some further thoughts: I'm not sure what edition you're using; I'm a 3.5 guy and so this is all going to be using what I know of the 3.5 rules - there might be some tweaking of this concept if you're using 5E rules. (I honestly don't know enough about 5E to confirm.) However, it strikes me that if you're using the curse concept, a night hag might be a reasonable explanation of what's going on here: she's got a slightly different version of the "dream haunting" supernatural ability going on, in that instead of entering the victim's dreams and riding him all night in his dreams, she's literally transforming him into a nightmare and physically riding him all night. So the PCs would be trying to fight the night hag, not realizing the nightmare steed she's riding is the centaur game warden who asked them to help him track down and stop the hag in the first place. Maybe her hold on him grows stronger each night, and if nobody can stop the process she'll eventually turn him permanently into a nightmare. (Maybe that's where nightmares actually come from? Just a possibility.) There are a few possible obstacles to this approach: in 3.5 at least, night hags can normally only enter the dreams of chaotic or evil dreamers, and the centaur default alignment is neutral good. You might need to come up with a reason around that. Also, night hags in 3.5 are CR 9 and nightmares are CR 5; I'm not sure what level you were shooting for for your 3-5 game sessions, so that might a disqualifier. Johnathan [/QUOTE]
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